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Why does GM like Slav but not Caro Kann?


  • 12 months ago · Quote · #21

    ghostofmaroczy

    Some players find a comfort zone in playing ...c6 and ...d5 systematically (Bologan and Shankland have been mentioned).  However, the Caro-Kann and Slav are not related systems.  That is, unless you can sneak this transposition:

    Caro-Kann Panov

    Slav Exchange

     




  • 12 months ago · Quote · #22

    Aksyonov

    There's more to any opening than merely the placement of one's own pawns, and a pairing that may make sense to one player may well be somewhat off-putting to another.

    Take the King's Indian defense.

    To somebody who likes games that feature interlocking pawn chains in the center of the board, and the strategies that revolve around those, the French defense makes sense as a counterpart, as has already been mentioned.

    To somebody who likes games that feature a dark-square defense, and the similarity of the targets in the opponent's camp that different dark square defenses tend to have in common, the Accelerated Dragon may make more sense than the light-square French, because tactics and piece placements aren't going to be as thematically connected in the French.  A recent thread highlighted GM Malakhov's preference for this pairing.  I think Perelshteyn plays like this too.

    To somebody who likes the tendency of the KID to evolve into a direct counterattack on the opponent's king, certain Sicilians such as Najdorfs or d6 Dragons may make sense as a counterpart.  Kasparov springs to mind.

    To a Petrosian who liked playing with the solid kingside structure and defensive resources of the KID, it made sense to pair it with the Caro-Kann frequently.  Though Petrosian's repertoire was very diverse, of course, those two defenses featured prominently during his WC tenure.

    To a player who likes the idea that extremely similar positions can arise from extremely different openings, and the secondary idea that deep knowledge of those positions can give you a better shot at high-level understanding of the differences and similarities (and thus perhaps a small edge over your opponent), the Breyer Lopez may be a good pairing.  See: Radjabov.

    The point is, it's very reasonable to find similarities that you want to highlight in two different defenses, and the fact that Soltis chose to do so with the Caro and Slav doesn't make him "right" or "wrong," just outspoken in his opinion.  There are plenty of similarities between these two defenses.  They aren't universal, but you might choose to agree.  Or you may dissent.  It's a lovely game that way.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #23

    Punky81

    I have seen several pairings mentioned, but nobody has listed a better pairing for either CK or Slav or Semi-Slav. What would be your recommended pairing for each of these. (I pair semi-slav with 1.e4 e5. My stats with slav are great, but I am terrible with CK despite playing it exclusively for a while.)

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #24

    ghostofmaroczy

    Punky81 wrote:

    I have seen several pairings mentioned, but nobody has listed a better pairing for either CK or Slav or Semi-Slav. What would be your recommended pairing for each of these.

    SemiSlav with Sveshnikov

    Slav with Classical Sicilian

    QGD with CaroKann

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #25

    Jion_Wansu

    Does this work for white:

     



     



  • 4 months ago · Quote · #26

    ghostofmaroczy

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #27

    Punky81

    Thanks, I will check those out, Ghost. I do great against anti-Sicilians, but was failing with the najdorf when I gave up on sicilian defense.

    I have seen several pairings mentioned, but nobody has listed a better pairing for either CK or Slav or Semi-Slav. What would be your recommended pairing for each of these.

    SemiSlav with Sveshnikov

    Slav with Classical Sicilian

    QGD with CaroKann

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #28

    Till_98

    Omg annoying how many people without any clue(nothing personal) write down completly wrong stuff. They dont even know the main lines for the openings(caro-kann=Bf5+pawn on d5; slav=Bf5+no pawn on d5 because of the move dxc4 played. To develop the bishop to f5 without taking on c4 is even a mistake which white can make use of easiely with Qb3). Also black tries in some lines also to hold the c4 pawn with b5 in the caro-kann(for example in the advance variation with whites early c4 move black often takes to get the d5 square(similar to the slav,semi-slav and Qgd) and then tries to hold the pawn with b5) which is similar to some slav-lines( and to the catalan). And NO you can not compare the french with the kingsindian as ThrillerFan did, thats just complete trash and non sense( 90%of his post is wrong and trash, its even a bit funny that some people believe what he wrote). So please guys, its not important to have clue of everything but when you have absolutely no clue then please dont invent non existing stuff and simply say nothing. Thanks and Cheers, Till

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #29

    ghostofmaroczy

    Till_98

     

    when you have absolutely no clue then please dont invent non existing stuff and simply say nothing.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #30

    ghostofmaroczy

    Punky81 wrote:

    Thanks, I will check those out, Ghost. I do great against anti-Sicilians, but was failing with the najdorf when I gave up on sicilian defense.

     

    I have seen several pairings mentioned, but nobody has listed a better pairing for either CK or Slav or Semi-Slav. What would be your recommended pairing for each of these.

     

     

    SemiSlav with Sveshnikov

    Slav with Classical Sicilian

    QGD with CaroKann

    Sveshnikov:

    Don't let your kingside pawn roll get blocked.

    Do kill the White d5 knight when you need to.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #31

    Till_98

    lol what was the point in saying my words again in bigger size? :D

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #32

    Fiveofswords

    the similarities are only superficial. But anyway the caro kan isnt bad


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