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26th May 2008, 12:33am
#1
by KevinGabbert
Salem, Oregon United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 85

I have another suggestion for the site that should be easy to implement.

I see that our usernames have a star icon next to them, and rating, however, it would be really nice to see the "activity level" of a player up there too. Colors & meanings could vary, but here are some examples to get the idea across.

Green for "Very Active"  (on once a day)

Blue for "Active" (on more than once a week)

Black for "Normal" (whatever normal is. or default in case this is an optional feature, or not enough data)

Orange for "sluggish" 

Red for "Dude pops on once every 16 weeks, makes a move, then runs off for another 16 weeks."

It would also save bandwidth, as i am sure a lot of users (like myself) load up the page of a player to see when they have been on last.

This could be as easy as changing the color of their username. 

The only conflict I can see is with users themes.  If that's the case, make it turn off if the theme conflicts with the color.  Set up the feature. don't get complicated and let the users define the colors or else it'll never get done. Save that for your next pass when people say they like the feature but hate Orange on their page.

Another way you could do it (to conflict less with themes) is put a halo or filled in circle behind the star icon that shows they are a paying member.  for anyone is not a paying member, you'd just see the circle of the corresponding color.

 

This scheme would certainly inform my decision when selecting users on an "Open Seek". An add-on feature later would be an option on "start new game" to be able to only allow  >= Blue users to start a game with me.. 

26th May 2008, 01:28am
#2
by erik
Bay Area, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 12891
very interesting suggestion! i'll think on this. very interesting indeed....
26th May 2008, 01:42am
#3
by vijaykulkarni
Pune, Bharat India
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 25255
Can something be done to ensure that players playing on number of boards simulteneously do justice to all their games by not delaying on some boards while playing within reasonable time on other boards.
26th May 2008, 02:07am
#4
by Evil_Homer
Perth Australia
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1735
vijaykulkarni wrote: Can something be done to ensure that players playing on number of boards simulteneously do justice to all their games by not delaying on some boards while playing within reasonable time on other boards.

This is a constant theme on the forums.  The general concensus is that as long as the player sticks within the agreed timelimit for the game, then it should not be an issue.  Therefore a one move per three days allows them three days for a move, regardless of what they do elsewhere.


26th May 2008, 02:39am
#5
by Michael_Sarmiento
Laguna Philippines
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1470
thats the nature of this kind of chess.... you need to be patient enough. I usually play 7 days per move but i try to finish each game in one sitting depending of time availability. If you have more time to play, consider others if they do.... not all players making a long move necessarily mean it's intentional.... some player have games more than 50  and befor he could make a move on the next game would depend on the game rotation.... i guess we all have to play our best and wait for the opponents to make their move and try to do other things to pass the time when no available moves to make.... nobody know what really happens let's give each other the benefit of the doubt.....
26th May 2008, 09:37am
#6
by KevinGabbert
Salem, Oregon United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 85
Michael_Sarmiento wrote: thats the nature of this kind of chess.... you need to be patient enough. I usually play 7 days per move but i try to finish each game in one sitting depending of time availability. If you have more time to play, consider others if they do.... not all players making a long move necessarily mean it's intentional.... some player have games more than 50  and befor he could make a move on the next game would depend on the game rotation.... i guess we all have to play our best and wait for the opponents to make their move and try to do other things to pass the time when no available moves to make.... nobody know what really happens let's give each other the benefit of the doubt.....

 

 it sounds like there is some room for configuration here.  This is not a "fairness" or "patience" thing, it is just another filter, descriptive of a user's "personality". We don't have the benefit of being in the same room, seeing each other in person.

That opens up a lot more possiblities.  For example, I don't usually play games all in one sitting, but other users might want to play other people who usually do so.  That is a "personality" that might be preferred by another seeking a chess game.  I can imagine quite a number of "personality" configurations.

 


26th May 2008, 11:15am
#7
by futuregm23
Chicago United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 903
great idea!
26th May 2008, 11:18am
#8
by excalibur8
England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 264
If you're waiting for someone to move,  do a couple of crosswords to while away the time.
26th May 2008, 03:18pm
#9
by Dozy
Blue Mountains Australia
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2342

We seem to have drifted off track a bit.  Kevin's colour coding scheme is certainly a good idea. 

I don't think it'd save me checking out an opponent, though.  Whenever I play somebody new I read their profile.  (If you don't to that you're probably missing a great chess.com feature.)  I learn a lot of true and entertaining things about my opponents, although the things that are true are not necessarily entertaining, and the things that are entertaining...

Enough!

The other time I used to check out a potential opponent was when I received a challenge.  The only thing I wanted to know at that stage was their time-out percentage.  If a player times out habitually I don't want to start a game with him.  Thanks to the improvement in the challenge-received notices that's no longer necessary.  They're excellent.  Thanks, Erik et al.

It may be a bit cold-blooded but I also edit my friends list from time to time.  If somebody hasn't been on line for more than three months I assume he's not coming back and remove him from the list.  (It keeps the list short and manageable, and makes it quicker to find somebody if I want to send them a message.)


26th May 2008, 05:06pm
#10
by ryugu_rena
Hinamizawa Japan
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 9

I support that colour/activity system.  It would allow tournaments to be organized more efficiently (one person couldn't hold up several others), and faster players won't get stuck with slow ones.


26th May 2008, 05:31pm
#11
by Mancamber
Campinas Brazil
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 194
I am an active player, from Kevin`s suggested examples I would be a green!! However Isn`t there a danger that if we assign colours to individuals (whilst the active may stay active) the not-so-active might be a bit put off. Which would create a potential negative feed back for casual players (who may then become disheartened and play even less)...
26th May 2008, 05:36pm
#12
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4945
I'm not sure I like the implication in the OP that I am somehow abnormal for coming to chess.com every day. ;-)
26th May 2008, 06:04pm
#13
by Thundercracker
Glasgow Scotland
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 130

I like the idea of using colour for the handles. Not sure about activity and colour though, do we really want to encourage members to visit or post comments just so they get a colour reward. How about using colour to signifify how strong their chess.com rating is (Like martial arts belts).

Suggestions 

>2200 yellow

>2000 orange

>1800 red

>1600 purple

>1400 blue

>1201 grey

1200 (Not Played) Brown 

<1201 green

This would act as an incentive for people to improve and sometimes you want to have an idea of how stong some forumers are when discussing chess ideas. Only down side I see is possible clashes with user themes and there might be one or two people being put off.


26th May 2008, 06:06pm
#14
by Mancamber
Campinas Brazil
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 194
I still think it`s a good idea in general though Kev.
24th August 2008, 03:13pm
#15
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8364

Whether a colour scheme reflects activity level or rating, I foresee endless discussion about the colour sequence. Red or Orange should correspond to active - not sluggish!

24th August 2008, 04:46pm
#16
by KevinGabbert
Salem, Oregon United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 85

it would be nice to see the feature *period*.  personalization can come later.

As said originally:

>The only conflict I can see is with users themes.  If that's the case, make it turn off if the theme conflicts with the color.

> Set up the feature. don't get complicated and let the users define the colors or else it'll never get done.

>Save that for your next pass when people say they like the feature but hate Orange on their page.

8th December 2008, 07:01am
#17
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8364

Was KevinGabbert's suggestion junked as being off-colour?

28th December 2008, 09:33pm
#18
by KevinGabbert
Salem, Oregon United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 85

WA-Ha!

So there IS something like "Active Players" here on chess.com. I had created a group for those of us that live in Salem, Oregon,

(shameless plug:  http://www.chess.com/groups/home/team-salem )

and I saw that apparently if you go to the "maps" section, you can get a list of active players plotted out on a map

http://www.chess.com/map/players

so I see that the bones of this feature already exist in the programming code..

It would be cool to see it integrated into a players display name

(This is also a lame attempt at trying to keep the issue alive, as I'd certainly like to see it happen)

Come to think of it.. that gives me an idea for ANOTHER feature.. How about some sort of flag that shows that the person you are playing lives near you. I am sure that would spark some conversation during the game.  ..and *of course* make a checkbox on your account settings page for those that wish no one to know where they live.

but then.. that would affect the map as well... hmm..

Kevin

29th December 2008, 01:32am
#19
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8364
KevinGabbert wrote:

WA-Ha!

So there IS something like "Active Players" here on chess.com. I had created a group for those of us that live in Salem, Oregon,

(shameless plug:  http://www.chess.com/groups/home/team-salem )

and I saw that apparently if you go to the "maps" section, you can get a list of active players plotted out on a map

http://www.chess.com/map/players

so I see that the bones of this feature already exist in the programming code..

It would be cool to see it integrated into a players display name

(This is also a lame attempt at trying to keep the issue alive, as I'd certainly like to see it happen)

Come to think of it.. that gives me an idea for ANOTHER feature.. How about some sort of flag that shows that the person you are playing lives near you. I am sure that would spark some conversation during the game.  ..and *of course* make a checkbox on your account settings page for those that wish no one to know where they live.

but then.. that would affect the map as well... hmm..

Kevin


How would you handle stalky implications? 

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/where-to-post-about-searching-of-partners and http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/member-search---how-to-improve-it?quote_id=1500724&page=2

29th December 2008, 03:07am
#20
by JediMaster
Brookings SD United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 471

In keeping with the active theme and colors.  Here is a consideration that I use before I challenge a player or accept a challenge.  I always look at their page and determine there time outs or vacation time.  I do not play players that have any vacation time.  The only exception would be when I play tournaments because I do not have control over those who join tournaments unless I am the one setting up the tournament. 

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