Vote Chess Ratings???

We have ratings for Live Chess- standard,bullet, blitz. We have Online Chess, Chess960, Tactics, and Chess Mentor

All of these (excluding Tactics and Chess Mentor) are used in all types of groups.Which is important as you want the best to compete in Team Matches.While Vote Chess is meant for everyone, and not meant for specific ratings.

That is understandable, but with Vote Chess being a huge part of the daily part of chess.com. Why isn't there any ratings for it?

The two main ideas are about why there should be a display of a vc rating is :

1. Will help admins who to invite  and not to invite to see if they are a team player

2. Will limit Silent/Rogue voters greatly

To do this, a system will have to be put in place, and it doesn't have to be complicated at all

All you need to do is when you vote for a move that is correct (as in that is what is played later on) you gain rating. If you get it wrong, you lose points.

Now, some might say that "Hey, i was just voting on what I like best!" Well VC is not about likeness (except the first move, that will have no effect on your rating). It is about the most popular move. Where people talk to each other, find a move and vote, creating a machine of numerous parts all acting as one. Where the weaker parts (weaker players) learn from crucial parts (stronger players) but both adding on to a machine, that if properly used, can create a wonderful game.

Plus, it will restrict (not remove) Silent/Rogue voters because it could end up stopping you from being invited to groups. Who wants a 900 vc player? That means he just votes on what he likes and not the team's move. Clearly not person you want on your team!

Thoughts? Now I don't really expect it to be put into chess.com. But I just wanted to speak my mind anyway and see where it went.

I think they have a group for this

An offical  Chess.com Rating:

Ex:

Vote Chess                                                                               1758           

We do not want a group rating, we should have the offical kind

Oh, I get it now

Interesting idea

Nothing has to be shown, when you vote for a move, the computer saves it, and if you voted for the right move you gain points. Which means that you are a team player.

Yes, I know, that is why I made this topic, I thought it would be a good idea if Chess.com put the system in place for this to happen?

But is there any major drawbacks? That is what I want to know? :)

Ex.This is how it usually goes:

People talk about move

People vote

Move is made by the most popular

If you vote for the move played (wheather deicided by engine or not, it does not matter) then you get points. You vote wrong, you lose points.

Yes, in a well-organized group, all members who vote for the move that was made gets equal points.

Those however who don't lose points.

The point of VC rating is to get rid of as you have made pointed out "MODEL 0" and to give recruiters a better image of who they are inviting

I mean you could split up how points are given like from opening (c.1-15) to middle (c.15-30) to finally end game (c.30-45).

But making it more complicated will lessen it even futher of it ever being implemented

If somebody has a 900 Vc rating, it shows to anybody they are a rebel.

A person with 1700 Vc rating shows they pay attention and go with the team.

Thanks! I appreiciate it :)

Your rating system cant work, only indivigil games can be rated, not team members or team games.  How would your rating sysem work?  Does everyone start at 1200, 1400, or 1.  The only score good or bad can only come from from the move chosen.  What happens when it a tie vote, do the people below who is in a tie get a lower rating since they went to a new systen that choose the last vote chosen.  Would that be fair?  Then what happens if the game is lost by those who won the votes, would they go down in ratings for losing the game?  

It's not explained well above.  It just doesnt seem that Chess.com will do that much coding for a VC team match just to let you ban those who doesnt agree with you in a team vote.  BTW, there is no such thing as a 900 rated VC player.  The rating you get for the players now is the indivigil ratings they have from the indivigil games they play.  This is a team game, no ratings, just win or lose and get 5 points for the win.  The other team doesnt even lose 5 points they just get no points.  So , What is the point other than ban, or, deny others from playing chess?

No, I don't "just want to see whos a rebel and not what [I] call a team player". The rating system  of Vc will also help teams. Just by looking at the Vc rating of members shows if he is active in not just TM. I mean the whole point of having a  group (the majority anyway) is become #1 in TMs AND Vc isn't it?

I am willing to compromise though, maybe when you first start, you are at a 0 and as you play more, and vote more, your earn more points. But don't lose any if you are wrong.

There is nothing "sinister" about it, and banning isn't even in the topic. That choice is up to the admins.

Lol, you edited your response, why not just post a new comment?

i will still reply give me a second though:

"That happens when it a tie vote, do the people below who is in a tie get a lower rating since they went to a new systen that choose the last vote chosen.  Would that be fair?"

Good question, didn't think of that

Perhaps, no one gets any points no matter what move is made because both were equal

"Then what happens if the game is lost by those who won the votes, would they go down in ratings for losing the game?  "

No, points are given each move and that is it, if the game is lost, points still stay the same.

"It's not explained well above."

Sorry about that then for not explaining it well enough, that part is my fault.

Easier to edit it.  

True, but now, people will be thinking that my post makes no sense! lol!

If somebody has a 900 Vc rating, it shows to anybody they are a rebel.

A person with 1700 Vc rating shows they pay attention and go with the team.

Your words say different above that below. 

No, I don't "just want to see whos a rebel and not what [I] call a team player". The rating system  of Vc will also help teams. Just by looking at the Vc rating of members shows if he is active in not just TM. I mean the whole point of having a  group (the majority anyway) is become #1 in TMs AND Vc isn't it?

I am willing to compromise though, maybe when you first start, you are at a 0 and as you play more, and vote more, your earn more points. But don't lose any if you are wrong.

There is nothing "sinister" about it, and banning isn't even in the topic. That choice is up to the admins.

No, not being able to join groups is and isnt that banning.