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  • 13 months ago · Quote · #1

    Kummatmebro

    what can i improve on? Feel like letting the rook into my camp was a blunder... dont agree with what a lot of the things the computer analysis had to say, especially how it said the caro kann was an inaccuracy. 

     

    i was black btw.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #2

    Irontiger

    Kummatmebro wrote:
     

    what can i improve on?

    Stopping to use the computer analysis this way is a first step. If you just passively use it, you will not progress. You need to analyse first by yourself, then you can run the computer to check for blunders. And eventually, sometimes (rarely) the computer is just wrong...

     

    4...Bg4 looks slightly better to me. After 4...Bf5 5.d4 the bishop is not doing much on f5. Still largely playable though.

    8...Be7 feels better to me, but I have no rational reason to offer.

    9...h6 loses time for nothing.

    10...b6 ? : you lack a plan. Letting the white knight go on c5 is no big deal. In that kind of positions, the plan is a minority attack.

    I disagree with the comp at 13, but I agree at 18.

    The comp's sideline at 21.Rxb5 is at best laughable. That move is totally playable ; White will lose the b2 pawn but keeps a very small edge.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #3

    jonnin

    download a free computer program, the online one is weak and gives odd results and its opening book is scrambled or damaged or something.

    I have a bought one so I am not sure what the best freebie is right now.  Generally the freebies can import the free engines, so you can get a quite good free setup. 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #4

    Cogwheel

    Yes, you can get Arena 3.0 and Houdini 1.5 both for free and Arena is very easy to use.

    I use Deep Rybka 4 and Fritz 12 GUI.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #5

    Irontiger

    Anyways, the issue is more on the human side than on the computer side.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #6

    jonnin

    Agreed. 

    It was a strong game until around move 24, after that white makes one too many mistakes with the pawns and then finally gets forked.  Before that white had a nice passed pawn --- the idea here is probably to trade away the dangerous knights, drag the king into the fight, and try to win the pawn / rook game by forcing the B pawn and picking up stray pawns while black is tied up keeping B from going home.  The tricky part is getting that knight trade.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #7

    Dragonbice

    Just wanted to advice you on one point:

    IF you decide to get some top notch software, be very careful about downloading it from torrent sites. Without debating the (il)legitimacy of downloading from torrent sites, I just want to say that downloading expensive and popular software from torrent sites is an almost certain way for your computer to get infected by viruses or spy-/malware - even if you scan whatever you download before installing it. "A friend of mine" has learned that lesson and won't do it again. Wink

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #8

    Timothy_P

    "The burned hand teaches best", huh Dragon? :)

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #9

    Dragonbice

    Timothy_P wrote:

    "The burned hand teaches best", huh Dragon? :)

    I wouldn't know, you'd have to ask that friend of mine. Innocent

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #10

    TheGreatOogieBoogie

    White was done after you played Nxc3 forcing him to move the rook so you could capture Rxb2. 

    White's c3 was a bit passive.  Establishing an idea pawn center is good, but the goal needs to be realistic.  Also you should have moved the king knight first to kingside castle that much faster.  After 6.Be3,Bxe3 you help him improve his position, 6...Bg6 looks better to me because it is well supported watching over that diagonal maintaining the tension, and if white trades bishops (unlikely) then you'd have an open h-file. 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #11

    Kummatmebro

    Irontiger wrote:

    Kummatmebro wrote:

     

    what can i improve on?

    Stopping to use the computer analysis this way is a first step. If you just passively use it, you will not progress. You need to analyse first by yourself, then you can run the computer to check for blunders. And eventually, sometimes (rarely) the computer is just wrong...

     

    4...Bg4 looks slightly better to me. After 4...Bf5 5.d4 the bishop is not doing much on f5. Still largely playable though.

    8...Be7 feels better to me, but I have no rational reason to offer.

    9...h6 loses time for nothing.

    10...b6 ? : you lack a plan. Letting the white knight go on c5 is no big deal. In that kind of positions, the plan is a minority attack.

    I disagree with the comp at 13, but I agree at 18.

    The comp's sideline at 21.Rxb5 is at best laughable. That move is totally playable ; White will lose the b2 pawn but keeps a very small edge.

    B6 prevents the knight from going to c5

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #12

    Irontiger

    Kummatmebro wrote:

    Irontiger wrote:

    Kummatmebro wrote:

    (...)

    10...b6 ? : you lack a plan. Letting the white knight go on c5 is no big deal. In that kind of positions, the plan is a minority attack. [ which includes a ...b5 push]

    (...)

    [answer] B6 prevents the knight from going to c5

    Bolded.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #13

    cardinal46

    In puter tourneys stats are in favor of houdini 3.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #14

    Ash_Peck

    Ash_Peck (885)

    Computer Analysis (~2000 strength)

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    Inaccuracies: 3 = 17.6% of moves

    Mistakes: 1 = 5.9% of moves

    Blunders: 8 = 47.1% of moves

    Score:

    1. c4 d5?! ( 1... e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4 Bd6 ) ( 1... d5 2. cxd5 Nf6 3. Nf3 e6 4. dxe6 Bxe6 5. d4 Bb4+ ) 2. e3 dxc4?! ( 2... e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Nxd5 exd5 6. Nf3 ) ( 2... dxc4 3. Bxc4 Nc6 4. Nf3 e5 5. Nc3 Be6 6. Bxe6 fxe6 ) 3. Bxc4 e5 4. e4 c5?! ( 4... Nc6 5. Nf3 Bc5 6. O-O Nf6 7. Nc3 O-O 8. d3 ) ( 4... c5 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. O-O Bd6 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. Nc3 Nf6 ) 5. Nf3 b5?? ( 5... Bd6 6. Qb3 Qe7 7. O-O Nf6 8. Nc3 O-O 9. Nd5 Nxd5 10. Bxd5 ) ( 5... b5 6. Bd5 Bh3 7. gxh3 Nd7 8. Qb3 Nh6 9. Nc3 ) 6. Bxb5+?? ( 6. Bd5 Bh3 7. gxh3 Nd7 8. Bxa8 Qxa8 9. d3 Ngf6 10. Nc3 ) ( 6. Bxb5+ Bd7 7. Qb3 Bd6 8. Nc3 Nf6 9. O-O Nc6 ) 6... Bd7 7. Bc4 f5?? ( 7... Bd6 8. Qb3 Nh6 9. d3 O-O 10. Bxh6 gxh6 11. O-O ) ( 7... f5 8. Nxe5 Qe7 9. d4 cxd4 10. Qxd4 Nc6 11. Qxd7+ Qxd7 ) 8. Nxe5 f4?? ( 8... Qe7 9. d4 Nf6 10. Bf7+ Kd8 11. Nc3 cxd4 12. Qxd4 Qc5 13. Qxc5 Bxc5 ) ( 8... f4 9. Qh5+ g6 10. Bf7+ Ke7 11. Qg5+ Nf6 12. Bd5 Bh6 13. Qxh6 Nxd5 14. Qg7+ Kd6 ) 9. Nf7? ( 9. Qh5+ g6 10. Bf7+ Ke7 11. Qg5+ Nf6 12. Bd5 Bh6 13. Qxh6 Nxd5 14. Qg7+ Ke6 ) ( 9. Nf7 Qe7 10. Nc3 Nf6 11. Nxh8 Nxe4 12. Qh5+ Kd8 ) 9... h5?? ( 9... Qh4 10. Nxh8 Nh6 11. Nc3 Nc6 12. g3 fxg3 13. fxg3 ) ( 9... h5 10. Nxd8 Kxd8 11. Qb3 Nh6 12. d4 cxd4 13. Bxf4 ) 10. Nxd8 a5?? ( 10... Kxd8 11. Qb3 Nh6 12. d4 cxd4 13. Bxf4 Nc6 14. Qb7 Rc8 ) ( 10... a5 11. Nf7 Rh7 12. Ng5 Rh8 13. d3 Nc6 14. Bxf4 Nd4 15. Nc3 ) 11. e5?? ( 11. Nf7 Rh7 12. Ng5 Rh8 13. d3 Nc6


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