How Levon Aronian crushed my team

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Irontiger

The last weekend, there was a team match event held in Paris by Ernst&Young ; the teams were of four players, and the eight best teams (including the one I was in) participated a simultaneous event vs. GM Aronian : each team talked about the move to play against the grandmaster ; for the rest, it was like a standard simultaneous game with a time control 1h30min (except that the eight boards have four players consulting together behind each of them).

 

Our game is not the best of the eight, but as it is the one I played with my teammates I can give more annotation, and add the psychological insight. Please feel free to comment, suggest lines, etc.



utarefson

Nice game. Great annotations.

Christian_Roettger

after 14. e4, I think 14. - Nc7, 15. - a6 16. a4 b5 are closer to your strategic plan of pushing the queenside majority. 17. a5 would be even worse for him. Generally, I think your pawn on a5, his on a4 are bad for you - you need to open this up, so you need to push through b5 (without sacrificing it!).

This is a fascinating game! thanks for the annotations.

Christian_Roettger

... and apparently the system ate my previous comment, I'll try again. 

After

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e63. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Ba65. Qc2 Bb7 6. Bg2 

I think 6. - Nc6 would have been better. You suggest 7. Ne5, and - Nxe5 would indeed have been bad. But what about 7. Ne5 Nxd4? this leaves his Queen and Bg2 hanging, I think it loses him a pawn. He should not even play 7. Ne5, maybe 7. e3 d5 which is comfortable for you. Even 7. e4 d5 is OK for you, I think: After all the tactical stuff fizzles out, the battle could be about leaving an opponent's pawn isolated in the center and then attacking it. If you end up not having a pawn on d5, you have a chance of creating an 'isolani' on d4 for him - that would be a long-term advantage for you.



Huskie99

Thanks for sharing with your annotations - sounds like it was a fun opportunity to play against one of the world's best!

VLaurenT

Des commentaires très agréables à lire, et je trouve que vous vous êtes plutôt bien défendus ! C'est difficile de jouer en équipe, car parfois les idées des uns et des autres créent plus de confusion qu'autre chose.

Est-ce toujours O.Macard l'organisateur de cet événement annuel ?

Irontiger

edit for the analysis of 9...Nxd5, which is in fact playable (but I'm no fan of it)



lethal_banzai

wow you probably had a good sweat

but as they say : no sweat no glory''

great articel about Armenia & chess

HolyKing

Wow,!

You r so lucky to play with a well known GM

Fear_ItseIf

im glad holyking necrod this thread, it was a good read.

Irontiger
Master_Valek wrote:

They didn't know how to play the kings indian defense? Pretty weak team, kings indian is about one of the most standard openings one learns if they take chess seriously enough.

Master_Troll, the fact is I probably know the KID much better than you do. And I also reckon that I know much, much less than Aronian does.

Our hope was to get out of the opening with something playable, against a top GM playing White. Playing an opening that none in our team used as principal competition weapon was not a good idea.

Aronian is also more booked-up, or better improvisator, in the Nimzo-Indian, but I am not dead lost in the water when I get out of the book at move 15 as we would have been in the KID. Also, he might have wanted to go out of the book himself, and I could - not sure, but I could - have identified which disadvantadge he would have taken for it, which would not be the case in the KID, where there are also multiple subtelties in the move order.

 

Now, of course the KID is an important opening for the structures that arise from it, etc. but knowing the book moves is certainly not an absolute necessity provided you have something to anwer 1.d4, be it the Nimzo, the Grunfeld, the Dutch, the orthodox defense, or anything else.

If you want to troll this forum to death about how the KID is superior to the Nimzo-Indian, I will have the regret to block you. I will not warn you a second time, and I hereby ask all subsequent posters not to answer trollish posts from you.

Irontiger
Stigmatisert wrote:
Irontiger wrote:

The last weekend, there was a team match event held in Paris by Ernst&Young ; the teams were of four players, and the eight best teams (including the one I was in) participated a simultaneous event vs. GM Aronian ...

You've played against Aronian? What a energy boost it must have been.

Thank you for sharing both the game and the team's reasoning. (I thought I was the only meeting moves I didn't even count as relevant to look into).

Actually, now that I look again at it (almost one year after), most moves that were mysterious to me remain so, but I start to vaguely understand a few of them. Maybe I am getting better ?...

 

Otherwise :

 

Master_Valek is now blocked from posting in this forum, for the trollish attitude he displayed :

1-by pretending not to see that things are more complex than the binary alternative "I know/ I do not know the KID" ;

2-by claiming without argumentation that anyone that is not playing the KID against a much better opponent is a patzer ;

3-by pretending not to read my posts, or genuinely not doing it (#13 answered his posts) ;

4-by double-posting for no good reason, and even the two posts were pointless after the previous ones ;

5-by not having taken my warning into account.

 

This is the first time I ever block someone from posting in my thread, and I really regret that censorship.