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Chess and IQ Relationship


  • 3 months ago · Quote · #41

    Goldname

    Never talk about IQ. It only brings up the braggarts.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #42

    Jadulla

    YOU CAN'T INCREASE YOUR IQ

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #43

    Dodger111

    Peeple that play chess are smrater than peeple that don't. 

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #44

    Roofslovepizza

    Don't even get me started on IQ.

    First of all, the fundamental idea of IQ is flawed.  This is because it is not logical to try and represent someone's overall intelligence with a single figure as there are many different classifications of intellignce and in my opinion they cannot be combined into one representation for the same reason you can't simplify the expression "3 + a" or you can't concatenate a string and an integer in programming; they just aren't compatible.  

    In addition to this, there is no accurate way (and there may never be) an accurate way to measure intelligence.  Keeping aside all the bogus "IQ Tests" you can find all over the internet today, even the so called "professional" IQ tests fail to determine any kind of valid representation of intelligence because there is simply no way to express an abstract conception like intelligence as a numerical value.

    In conclusion: "People who boast about their IQ's are losers." - Steven Hawking

    And to answer your question we have to assume that intelligence is not a constant, but is forever changing (which you will find it is if you research), I would make the hypothesis the average chess player is more "intelligent" than the average human being.  My theory is that the vast majority of  active chess players have  developed a certain level of skill to the game and to acheive this skill, in their games they must apply the knowledge they know to the situation (the definition of intelligence).  Because of this I suspect these chess players would have to have a "base level" of intelligence, which is not present if you are recording the intelligence of the average human being, therefore in effect, "filtering" out those of less intelligence so that the average intelligence of a chess player is ever so slightly higher than those who are not.

    This does not answer if chess makes you smarter, it's just a possible conclusion that could be drawn from the question of if chess players are smarter than your average Joe.

    TL;DR IQ may affect if you play chess, but it is uncertain if chess affects your IQ.  Also, IQs are dumb.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #45

    ebillgo

    Excelling at chess has long been considered a symbol of more general intelligence. That is an incorrect assumption in my view, as pleasant as it might be. ~ chess quote by Garry Kasparov

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #46

    sirrichardburton

    I know that originaly iq was devised only to identify the below average intelligence not above average. What i find amusing is that everywhere people post their "i.q." it is nearly always in the genius range.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #47

    kleelof

    sirrichardburton wrote:

    I know that originaly iq was devised only to identify the below average intelligence not above average. What i find amusing is that everywhere people post their "i.q." it is nearly always in the genius range.

    I guess genius is a low bar.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #48

    batgirl

    sirrichardburton wrote:

     What i find amusing is that everywhere people post their "i.q." it is nearly always in the genius range.

    Only an idiot would post his IQ being 48.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #49

    Iamnotgreatchess

    batgirl wrote:

    Only an idiot would post his IQ being 48.

    Yeah, my IQ is more than double that at 73.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #50

    kleelof

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  • 3 months ago · Quote · #51

    Thomas2792796

    People use the term intelligence to refer to different things.  IQ is raw intelligence or potential - it doesn't mean you will be an educated or thoughtful person but it reflects (not very precisely but with enough accuracy to be useful) your capacity to excel in any particular intellectual activity.  Having a high IQ won't make you a good chess player but your IQ will approximately determine the maximum level you could achieve as a chess player assuming that you have the right training and experience.  It seems people of average intelligence are generally capable of reaching somewhere in the 2000-2200 range, however I doubt you would see anyone with an IQ below 120 above the 2700 mark.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #52

    kleelof

    IQ doesn't exist. It's just another tool to allow one group of people to feel superior over another group of people.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #53

    batgirl

    ...g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s...  ?

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #54

    hayabusahayate16

    your IQ is not fixed. that is old hat and you aren't born with a set IQ. its called neuroplasticity. meaning with proper training you can increase your brain function. Learning new language and music seem to be the most beneficial. Chess is almost like a new language so it too is beneficial.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #55

    kleelof

    hayabusahayate16 wrote:

    Chess is almost like a new language so it too is beneficial.

    c2 b4?

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #56

    Thomas2792796

    kleelof wrote:

    IQ doesn't exist. It's just another tool to allow one group of people to feel superior over another group of people.

    If by doesn't exist you mean "doesn't correlate precisely to intelligence" you'd be right.  It is an approximate measurement but generally speaking it is accurate enough to be useful for a number of applications - one of those applications being posting your IQ on forums to prove your superiority over other members.  My IQ is 239 btw.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #57

    OldChessDog

    Chess has definitely increased my IQ--it has increased my irritation quotient that I suck so bad at it even after all these years...


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