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Is Chess Finally Dead?


  • 4 months ago · Quote · #81

    GideonDerTactician

    Chess is not dead nor will it be in the far future. If it is ever to die it will be approporiately replaced by "go". I see nothing to worry about.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #82

    Herebrocker

    chess isnt that popular - so i would not say that it can die because it was never alive lol. it does not have that big meaning - only for some players who do it professional though there is no money on chess. oh - i forgot the thousands or people who blow up their ego by improving on chess because they make the mistake to think that chess abilities are an index for intelligence - but - thats the problem of the idiots - not a problem for billions of people who do not waste their time - or who have just fun by playing chess and who dont care if there are some engines playing better.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #83

    Quiksilverau

    And a forklift can beat the worlds strongest man, should we stop the olympics since we have invented forklift?

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #84

    Herebrocker

    Quiksilverau hat geschrieben:

    And a forklift can beat the worlds strongest man, should we stop the olympics since we have invented forklift?

    yes - and we got some good vibrators and dildos - should we stop ... ?

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #85

    DrSpudnik

    You should stop.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #86

    Herebrocker

    drspudnik - i wear clothes - even in summertime when it is hot - i respect some psychological problems many people have with their and other bodies and sexualitie - i make allowances - but that does not mean that i confirm with every extreme problem with sexuality - your comment is obvioulsy an expression of such a problem. its interesting - subsession leads to obsession - perhaps this is the reason why the biggest porn industrie was made up in a country with the biggest subsession and biggest problems about that theme - usa.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #88

    DrSpudnik

    Herebrocker wrote:

    drspudnik - i wear clothes - even in summertime when it is hot - i respect some psychological problems many people have with their and other bodies and sexualitie - i make allowances - but that does not mean that i confirm with every extreme problem with sexuality - your comment is obvioulsy an expression of such a problem. its interesting - subsession leads to obsession - perhaps this is the reason why the biggest porn industrie was made up in a country with the biggest subsession and biggest problems about that theme - usa.

    What a delightful non-sequitur! And it's baloney too. By your logic, the largest porn industry should be in Saudi Arabia or some such. But it is funny that you interpreted my three word reply as something related to a sexual hangup. Go on...

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #89

    SkyMarshal

    While I still have something to learn, it wont be dead.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #90

    GMrisingJCLmember1

    Chess is not dead.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #91

    Murgen

    Chess will be dead when everyone who plays it has memorised every possible game that could be played... Laughing

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #92

    Herebrocker

    DrSpudnik hat geschrieben:
    Herebrocker wrote:

    drspudnik - i wear clothes - even in summertime when it is hot - i respect some psychological problems many people have with their and other bodies and sexualitie - i make allowances - but that does not mean that i confirm with every extreme problem with sexuality - your comment is obvioulsy an expression of such a problem. its interesting - subsession leads to obsession - perhaps this is the reason why the biggest porn industrie was made up in a country with the biggest subsession and biggest problems about that theme - usa.

    What a delightful non-sequitur! And it's baloney too. By your logic, the largest porn industry should be in Saudi Arabia or some such. But it is funny that you interpreted my three word reply as something related to a sexual hangup. Go on...

     

    in saudi arabia men can have more than one wife - so what?

    "stopp it" "go on" - you really like the imperative lol - typicall american.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #93

    Warbringer33

    This thread is just completely ridiculous. Of course chess isn't dead. Was it dead the last three hundred times someone made a thread asking this? 

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #94

    flumculus

    I still wonder how Carlsen or other Super GMs would fare against Stockfish if they 

    1) Had unlimited time controls

    2) An Analysis board to try out lines before moving

    3) Access to databases/books/ etc

    After all the strength of computers is that they technically have all three of these advantages available to them virtually. That puts a human player already into an unfair position.

    One reason why I don't think computers are really "better" at chess is found in Go. So far even the best Go program was able to only draw a 9p even after it was given a 9 stone advantage. 

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #95

    DrSpudnik

    Herebrocker wrote:
    DrSpudnik hat geschrieben:
    Herebrocker wrote:

    drspudnik - i wear clothes - even in summertime when it is hot - i respect some psychological problems many people have with their and other bodies and sexualitie - i make allowances - but that does not mean that i confirm with every extreme problem with sexuality - your comment is obvioulsy an expression of such a problem. its interesting - subsession leads to obsession - perhaps this is the reason why the biggest porn industrie was made up in a country with the biggest subsession and biggest problems about that theme - usa.

    What a delightful non-sequitur! And it's baloney too. By your logic, the largest porn industry should be in Saudi Arabia or some such. But it is funny that you interpreted my three word reply as something related to a sexual hangup. Go on...

     

    in saudi arabia men can have more than one wife - so what?

    "stopp it" "go on" - you really like the imperative lol - typicall american.

    We're making great progress here. Now let's see why you attribute certain things as "typical" of Americans?

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #96

    ab121705

    is track and field dead because machines can outperform humans??? 

    the OP makes no sense whatsoever. 

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #97

    TheGreatOogieBoogie

    GreedyPawnEater wrote:

    Yes, chess has been long dead. Since Deep Blue destroyed Kasparov. Nowadays it's a recreation activity. Otherwise, I big fat waste of time as Kasparov himself has said.

     

    Deep Blue did not destroy Kasparov!  He did win the match but only by one game, and its win could legitimately be considered an upset due to Kasparov's far superior endgame technique, strategic understanding, and his experience from previous games, especially his matches against Karpov. 

     

    This Russian national hero, who was Botvinnik's favorite student, who took the chess world by storm as a clearly obvious prodigy, who won strong adult tournaments as a child, whose calculation abilities and strategic planning are legendary, who won matches against the great Anatoly Karpov, made Nigel Short, who earned a title shot by beating out other world class GMs, look foolish, and Kasparov in turn himself lost to an oversized chess calculator.  IBM was afraid, which was why they refused a rematch with Kasparov.  They knew the result was genuinely an upset.

     

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #98

    Valmat01

    true not as dead as tic tac toe

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #99

    Valmat01

    but the point is in sports theres physical strength and everybody built differently and has different strengths. Chess is all mind that where humans exell over the animal kingdom... well robots will excell humans in everything soon so chess will either get bigger literally bigger board 10x10 or we will just be able to snap the moves in 5 seconds nomatter the position like computers.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #100

    ab121705

    No. the point is we can build  machines to do things better than we can do them. That doesn't mean we don't continue living and functioning. Any computer can crush me in chess but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy sitting down and playing a human being. 

    There are still chess clubs all over the world; a computer could beat any club player. But people still love to play.

    So: No, chess is not dead. 


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