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mseidl

I'm getting kind of ******, because I view this as a cheap way to get out of losing.  But apparently putting someone in check over and over is a winning move?  In 2 games this guy is putting me in check over and over when I have the upper hand.  

Can I report this guy?  Or my friend has said it was a good move.  But I want to kick him in the ********

Diet_Coke

No, it's just part of the game.

rooperi

Well, the point is, if he can put you in check over and over, and you can't do anything to stop it, you don't really have the upper hand, do you?

essnov

It's not a winning move. But think about it- how can you have the upper hand if you cannot escape a perpetual check? You can never make progress. Therefore, nobody wins, nobody loses: it's a draw. If he's able to salvage a potential loss and turn it into a half-point by forcing a threefold repetition, then that's to his credit.

TadDude
mseidl wrote:

I'm getting kind of *******, because I view this as a cheap way to get out of losing.  But apparently putting someone in check over and over is a winning move?  In 2 games this guy is putting me in check over and over when I have the upper hand.  

Can I report this guy?  Or my friend has said it was a good move.  But I want to kick him in the **********.


Not a draw until the position is repeated three time.

http://www.chess.com/learn-how-to-play-chess.html

Draws

 

Occasionally chess games do not end with a winner, but with a draw. There are 5 reasons why a chess game may end in a draw:

  1. The position reaches a stalemate where it is one player’s turn to move, but his king is NOT in check and yet he does not have another legal move
  2. The players may simply agree to a draw and stop playing
  3. There are not enough pieces on the board to force a checkmate (example: a king and a bishop vs. a king)
  4. A player declares a draw if the same exact position is repeated three times (though not necessarily three times in a row)
  5. Fifty consecutive moves have been played where neither player has moved a pawn or captured a piece.

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tonymtbird

any method to aviod losing is a good one. 

Skwerly

Yea, it's called perpetual check, and it's been part of the rules forever.  It gives a player who is otherwise losing an opportunity to secure a draw.  :)

itsblundertime

Meh, I may have to do that to your buddy.  I'm up matirial, but the king can't defend well.

thecaveman

could you post the links to the games?

Jarrod_Currell
TadDude wrote:
mseidl wrote:

I'm getting kind of *******, because I view this as a cheap way to get out of losing.  But apparently putting someone in check over and over is a winning move?  In 2 games this guy is putting me in check over and over when I have the upper hand.  

Can I report this guy?  Or my friend has said it was a good move.  But I want to kick him in the **********.


Not a draw until the position is repeated three time.

http://www.chess.com/learn-how-to-play-chess.html

Draws

 

Occasionally chess games do not end with a winner, but with a draw. There are 5 reasons why a chess game may end in a draw:

The position reaches a stalemate where it is one player’s turn to move, but his king is NOT in check and yet he does not have another legal move The players may simply agree to a draw and stop playing There are not enough pieces on the board to force a checkmate (example: a king and a bishop vs. a king) A player declares a draw if the same exact position is repeated three times (though not necessarily three times in a row) Fifty consecutive moves have been played where neither player has moved a pawn or captured a piece.

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I was on another chess site once and they had a weekly question and then revealed the answer the next week.Well the question I saw was something like

" There are nine (9) ways to draw a game in chess. Can you list them?"

I never saw the answer but I couldn't think of 9. All I came up with was

1.both players agree to a draw

2.threefold repetition

3.50 move rule

4.stalemate

5.insufficient material

6.perpetual check (but if you play long enough you will eventually hit 50 moves or repetition).

7. I playted a game once where I had only my king left but my opponent ran out of time, and the game was drawn. I'm not sure what category this falls under.

are there really nine ways, if so what am I missing?

nanojluc

8- If both player don't show up for the game ...?

TheGrobe

Perpetual check is not officially one of the ways -- it eventually falls under one of 1, 2 or 3.

For rule 7, if there one player runs out of time but their opponents doesn't have sufficient material to mate then the result is deemed a draw instead of a win for their opponent.

So I count six in total.

To the OP, it's already been stated here, but if you don't prevent your opponent from being able to do this then it's really your fault that you didn't come away with the win.  Your opponent did nothing wrong -- in fact, the ability to find these kinds of saving tactics is commendable.

tineslabbinck

Here's a funny example of a perpetual check which must be frustrating for White:

 

ASpieboy

There are six ways to draw. They are listed in ARTICLE 9, which may explain the confusion. (Thank you Google!)

ogerboy
nanojluc wrote:

8- If both player don't show up for the game ...?


I believe if that both players don't show up for the game, black wins as the arbiter must start the white clock regardless if the player is present or not at the start of the game.

TheOldReb
ogerboy wrote:
nanojluc wrote:

8- If both player don't show up for the game ...?


I believe if that both players don't show up for the game, black wins as the arbiter must start the white clock regardless if the player is present or not at the start of the game.


 In this case both players will be forfeited. The player of the black pieces must be present to get a win on time. If neither player shows they both forfeit.

cobrastrk
there is a such thing as repetitive moves that lead to a draw i was wooping a guy pretty good one time and he caught me in the corner and pulled that on me and we drawed