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EricDodson

Can someone tell me what it means when a forum topic gets "locked," and isn't accepting any more new contributions?  It doesn't seem to be a function of the number of posts, since some topics get locked with only a few dozen responses, whereas others continue after hundreds of responses.  Similarly, it doesn't seem to depend upon the amount of time a topic has been in existence.  Is it related to the content of the discussion -- perhaps because it's drifting off-topic or becoming unsavory?  I guess that my question is this:  Under what conditions does a topic get locked?

kohai

Generally because of this;

The following topics are not allowed in the main public forums or chat rooms:

  • offensive/vulgar language
  • personal attacks
  • religious or political debate
  • spammy/pointless/distracting posts
  • discussion of illegal activities (drugs, etc)
  • advertising competitive sites
  • cheating
EricDodson

Thanks, kohai, for the elucidation.  I can see a rationale for all of the categories you're mentioning -- except for the last one (i.e., cheating).  It seems to me that with the advent of sophisticated computing technology, cheating has become a genuinely important and relevant issue for many chess-players -- and especially for people who play on-line.  So, to me it seems strange not to allow discussion of it in chess.com's main public forums and chat rooms.  But, on the other hand, I suppose that chess.com's staff knows all of the why's and wherefore's far better than I do.       

Timotheous
There is a special group for discussing cheating. That avoids the topic dominating the public forums.
EricDodson

Thanks Timotheous & FutbolStar5 for filling in the gaps!  Now I get it.  Cheers!

AndyClifton
kohai wrote:

The following topics are not allowed in the main public forums or chat rooms:

spammy/pointless/distracting posts

Naturally I am taking this one to the Court of Appeals...

kco

oh you would love to do that won't you ? Laughing

ozzie_c_cobblepot
Hey how about the pope, he's pretty cool. So this should get locked now then?
sapientdust

Yes, discussion of ch**ting is not allowed anywhere other than in the one designated ghetto, because it's in the best interest of all chess.com members to remain ignorant of how much cheating goes on here:

 

AndyClifton
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Hey how about the pope, he's pretty cool. So this should get locked now then?

Depends on the pope...

goldendog

Thumbs up.

waffllemaster
Fianchetto1967 wrote:

The recent topic of "Why doesn't Wikipedia have an article for chess.com" was locked today.  It was an intelligent discussion that did not offend any of the principles enumerated above, which are "

offensive/vulgar language personal attacks religious or political debate spammy/pointless/distracting posts discussion of illegal activities (drugs, etc) advertising competitive sites cheating"

So why was this topic locked if it did not violate these principles?

It's really a shame.  If they locked that topic then all the trouble you went to create your chess.com account is for nothing :(  I'm sure they could just as easily say "spammy/pointless/distracting" as easily as you could say "no notable references" or whatever it was.  (On the talk page were mentions of a book and some article IIRC, not that it matters to those with an axe to grind).

To remedy this loss of effort I suppose you'll have to play some chess here.

Crazychessplaya

Play chess?? Come on!

netzach

In my own experience of chess.com the most frequent cause of locking forums is usually personal-attacks.

The wiki thread had enormous amounts of that.

waffllemaster

It may have been that chess for dummies or chess for idiots guide IIRC, it supposedly had a section listing good sites to play online or something.  Honestly I don't really remember (and don't own the book).  I followed some link posted on chess.com that went to a wiki page that looked like a forum where people discussed stuff and someone mentioned it.  It's the first time I've seen something like that on wiki and I woudln't know how to find it again.

I notice a lot of wiki articles read like advertisements though.  If deleting chess.com's was part of clean up then that's fine I guess.  If someone wrote an objective sounding article about chess.com I don't see the problem.  I don't know why someone just didn't go in and edit out the advertisement parts, even just making it a stub. 

I don't know any of the people involved, but from some of the accusations (and that odd thread gloating about it being deleted) it seems the people involved weren't being professional... more like little kids.

batgirl

Is this a backdoor into the same discussion?

waffllemaster

Hahaha, this is really a joke Laughing

I have no problems dropping the subject.

corrijean

Sounds like they are doing the same thing to wikipedia that they are doing here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/OGBranniff

DrSpudnik

Busted again! At least Wikipedia takes action to stomp these goobers.

waffllemaster

I remember harassing people online after getting home from school lol.  Of course this was about 15 years ago and there wasn't nearly as much to do online in terms of harassment.  It was usually online game like starcraft (which had just come out) oh and starsiege tribes.

I remember it all seeming pretty badass until I grew up and realized I was just wasting a lot of people's time and it's very likely no one found it clever but me.

Oh remember winnuking?  All you needed was an IP address and you could crash someone's computer immediately at will (force a reboot).  lol.  Good times for kids online for sure.

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