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What's is Magnus Carlsen's IQ?

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pfren wrote:
RAJESH840 wrote:

80

That's his positive score against Anand, not his IQ.

Nope.

TheGreatOogieBoogie

I have played against retards and they aren't any worse than regular people who don't study the game.  Both groups are quite trivial.  Here's a game I played against someone who is boarderline retarded:

Whereas this game as white was against someone at least average:




dahandahan
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DiogenesDue
tonyfalcon76 wrote:
Twobit escribió:

So, you can find it on the net:

Garry Kasparov: 190

Bobby Fischer: 167

Judith Polgar: 170

Robert Byrne: 170

But Carlsen, should we guess, would be around 180-190

Fischer = 186

Not one of these IQ values is confirmed.

fburton
btickler wrote:
tonyfalcon76 wrote:
Twobit escribió:

So, you can find it on the net:

Garry Kasparov: 190

Bobby Fischer: 167

Judith Polgar: 170

Robert Byrne: 170

But Carlsen, should we guess, would be around 180-190

Fischer = 186

Not one of these IQ values is confirmed.

Indeed, they look like the product of a fevered imagination. Is there any evidence at all of a strong correlation between IQ and chess rating? Not as far as I know.

ChessOfPlayer

When will people realise being good at chess does in no way mean you have a large iq. These people have a large chess iq as a result of lots and lots of training from a young age. My theory is their confirmed standard iq probably pooled together and average wont score above 80 percentile. Go prove me wrong with confirmed statistics lads.

Senior-Lazarus_Long

Do they still give kids IQ tests? I thought that was discredited a long time ago. Just give them competancy tests to find their level,and start teaching from there.

SaintGermain32105

Yeah. One they we will now.

I've been tested by the so called JNA, but never went, and I was not a normal soldier in the Cro army either. It never lasted that long.

fburton

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SaintGermain32105

Right. I was told I should always read the first dozens as to be well informed on the subject.

weepingsheep
4 YEARS ago ????
BoldogOrcOfRivendell

135.28

Bangladesh_123

185 because he is far better then polgar.

SaintGermain32105

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DMEll
helltank wrote:
Twobit wrote:

He was probably never tested. He said he did not know in an interview. But here is the interesting thing; he admitted that many times he did not calculate moves, but went by how a certain move "felt". This feeling in reality is the result of the synthesized outcome of thousands of games , subconsciously. This is similar to Koltanowski's description of his talent in blindfold chess. So it may be more interesting to now his EQ (emotional quotient).


 Have you read Malcolm Gladwell's book, "Blink"?

I have read Blink. That could be a good explanation to Magnus's mental strength

KingpinChess

Twobit wrote:

I wonder though if there is any real correlation in between IQ and chess skills. Meaning that although strong players may have higher IQ, a higher IQ does not automatically guarantee a GM level skill. It all depends on how early a player starts playing (seriously). As you get older, certain undeveloped neural pathway potentials are lost, forever. That is why it is so hard to learn a second language when you are older or say, to learn to ride a unicycle, learn to play an instrument, etc. Even our beloved Judith Polgar was learning the Ruy Lopez when we were happy to sing along with Barney.

Actually there is. Multiple studies have linked chess with IQ and improved brain function. One study even proved that learning chess resulted in an IQ boost for those involved. To say that chess does not require any thought is rather stupid. Regardless of how one learns, multiple areas of the brain are actually strengthened by playing the game. Even though he could possibly use an engine to learn the best moves, I doubt he just blindly follows the engine (since Carlsen calls them blind and lucky). Carlsen has to figure out WHY the engine suggested the moveset and learn from that. On a relatee note... Did you know that chess players actually have high problem solving abilities due to playing chess? A study proved that those who play a lot of chess (and are good at the game) are very good at problem solving.

KingpinChess
Don_frye1 wrote:
jpaluska wrote:
Twobit wrote:

I wonder though if there is any real correlation in between IQ and chess skills. Meaning that although strong players may have higher IQ, a higher IQ does not automatically guarantee a GM level skill. It all depends on how early a player starts playing (seriously). As you get older, certain undeveloped neural pathway potentials are lost, forever. That is why it is so hard to learn a second language when you are older or say, to learn to ride a unicycle, learn to play an instrument, etc. Even our beloved Judith Polgar was learning the Ruy Lopez when we were happy to sing along with Barney.

Actually there is. Multiple studies have linked chess with IQ and improved brain function. One study even proved that learning chess resulted in an IQ boost for those involved. To say that chess does not require any thought is rather stupid. Regardless of how one learns, multiple areas of the brain are actually strengthened by playing the game. Even though he could possibly use an engine to learn the best moves, I doubt he just blindly follows the engine (since Carlsen calls them blind and lucky). Carlsen has to figure out WHY the engine suggested the moveset and learn from that. On a relatee note... Did you know that chess players actually have high problem solving abilities due to playing chess? A study proved that those who play a lot of chess (and are good at the game) are very good at problem solving.

You cant get smarter just more knowledgeable and less ignorant. How did he do in school

Well that's where you're wrong. There is a plethora of studies that are showing that it is indeed possible to raise IQ (and not just on IQ tests). This is done through the brain repairing and optimizing itself on its own. A game called NeuroNation has been proven to actually repair brain damage through usage in multiple studies. Further, like I already posted, those who play chess receive higher analytical skills from playing the game. It is totally possible to raise IQ and repair your brain. In fact, just taking Omega 3 has been shown to repair all sorts of brain damage, as has drinking green tea. The more you know lol

glitterparty

Afcorse it is not 69 if you got That iq than you cant typ on THE computer

Anna_kyznetsov

Twobit wrote:

I wonder though if there is any real correlation in between IQ and chess skills. Meaning that although strong players may have higher IQ, a higher IQ does not automatically guarantee a GM level skill. It all depends on how early a player starts playing (seriously). As you get older, certain undeveloped neural pathway potentials are lost, forever. That is why it is so hard to learn a second language when you are older or say, to learn to ride a unicycle, learn to play an instrument, etc. Even our beloved Judith Polgar was learning the Ruy Lopez when we were happy to sing along with Barney.

Guessing iq based on achievement is uber scientific. Sir, you're a genius. Lol

eddierendleman

All celebrities should have their IQ tested and post it publicly so that interested people can know(not sarcastic)