They even work against 16.Qh5?
Black seems as good as dead to me.
More than that- what's wrong with 16.Kxf2? It seems to me that on 16...ed4 17.cd4 white's king can have a small stroll towards e3 if threatened, and Black having very little, if anything.
They even work against 16.Qh5?
Black seems as good as dead to me.
More than that- what's wrong with 16.Kxf2? It seems to me that on 16...ed4 17.cd4 white's king can have a small stroll towards e3 if threatened, and Black having very little, if anything.
16. Kxf2 does work, but it still leads to to a comfortable game.
16. Kxf2 exd4 17. exd4 Qf6+ 18. Ke3 Bb6 black has no trouble.
this isnt even an immortal game LOL
If you can find a refutation, please do try.
I honestly could care less about refuting something, chess for me is about having fun and trying to kill the opponent. Computers take the fun out of it, they are only good usually for tactics...
my point about this game is that, its not an immortal game, look up immortal games please sir.
The knight sacrifice is pretty brilliant.
I played at GM level at the end.
See that is the thing, no one here except me will be straightforward with you, btw IM phren posted a pretty good line, it does indeed appear that you drop like flies after Qh5
He must not have calculated deeply enough.
It leads to a draw.
If the IM were to play this sacrifice from black's side, and if black were to play accurately, he would lose.
k well good for you, hopefully it helps you, still though you FAIL to respons to my question.
How is this an immortal game? (the answer should be its not) and post #6 doesnt even make sense now that i look back, clearly an 11 year old diva using a mac with rybka on the side.
Ha-ha. Sorry, pal, but there is no clear cut refutation for the sacrifice. Rybka managed to win the position at move 130 after extremely accurate play.
A human opponent would blunder forty moves before that and lose.
So, 16.Qh5 Qf6 (you can't protect both your hanging pieces, the h3 bishop and the check from g6 at the same time) 17.dc5 Bg4 18.Qh4 Nh3+ 19.Kh2 looks like a draw to you, right?
How many pieces down you have to be to admit you are "slightly worse"?
But OK, feel free to challenge me as Black in a 4-game match, starting by 16.Qh5, one move per day.
I will allow you using engines, GM's or whatever else you please.
The tariff is very appetizing for you:
50 $ for each of white's wins
100 $ for each black win
50 $ for Black if he manages to draw.
Here is your chance. At worst, you will emerge being $ 200 poorer. At best, your theory that extra pieces don't count will triumph.
Interested?
To spare you from losing 200 bucks: fritz gives white a 1,5 pawn advantage after qh5.
So, 16.Qh5 Qf6 (you can't protect both your hanging pieces, the h3 bishop and the check from g6 at the same time) 17.dc5 Bg4 18.Qh4 Nh3+ 19.Kh2 looks like a draw to you, right?
How many pieces down you have to be to admit you are "slightly worse"?
But OK, feel free to challenge me as Black in a 4-game match, starting by 16.Qh5, one move per day.
I will allow you using engines, GM's or whatever else you please.
The tariff is very appetizing for you:
50 $ for each of white's wins
100 $ for each black win
50 $ for Black if he manages to draw.
Here is your chance. At worst, you will emerge being $ 200 poorer. At best, your theory that extra pieces don't count will triumph.
Interested?
Maybe. Will you be using an engine also?
I don't want a battle of the machines.
By the way, white doesn't get the huge lead you think it does.
It takes it 60-70 moves to win with perfect endgame capabilities
To spare you from losing 200 bucks: fritz gives white a 1,5 pawn advantage after qh5.
You must be using an old version, because Rybka 4 at full power gives 1.00 and then goes as low as 0.75.
I'll take the bet.
So, 16.Qh5 Qf6 (you can't protect both your hanging pieces, the h3 bishop and the check from g6 at the same time) 17.dc5 Bg4 18.Qh4 Nh3+ 19.Kh2 looks like a draw to you, right?
How many pieces down you have to be to admit you are "slightly worse"?
But OK, feel free to challenge me as Black in a 4-game match, starting by 16.Qh5, one move per day.
I will allow you using engines, GM's or whatever else you please.
The tariff is very appetizing for you:
50 $ for each of white's wins
100 $ for each black win
50 $ for Black if he manages to draw.
Here is your chance. At worst, you will emerge being $ 200 poorer. At best, your theory that extra pieces don't count will triumph.
Interested?
P.S. You are human. You are flawed.
Rybka manages to barely win in 60 moves. You would either draw or lose.
Could you provide the variation? This isnt a complicated position by any means, I didnt have to use fritz to say that white is winning, I said it because I assumed you wouldnt trust my word.
But apparently you don't trust fritz word either. It's your money, I guess.
Could you provide the variation? This isnt a complicated position by any means, I didnt have to use fritz to say that white is winning, I said it because I assumed you wouldnt trust my word.
But apparently you don't trust fritz word either. It's your money, I guess.
White wins in 100 moves with accurate endgame play.
You're a 1700. Remember that.
One slip and the position is even.
White gets a 0.80 advantage
White doesnt win in 100 moves. He does not need accurate endgame play. He has a completely won position in 10 moves.
You're 1300. Remember that.
Could you provide a variation or are you just trolling out of spite because nobody liked your ''attack''?
White doesnt win in 100 moves. He does not need accurate endgame play. He has a completely won position in 10 moves.
You're 1300. Remember that.
Could you provide a variation or are you just trolling out of spite because nobody liked your ''attack''?
He doesn't have that much of an advantage. He only keeps the advantage with 2700-3200 ELO rated play.
Every move has to be accurate.
''Could you provide a variation or are you just trolling out of spite because nobody liked your ''attack''?''
Seems like I hit the spot.
You're not likeable. Go away.
''Could you provide a variation or are you just trolling out of spite because nobody liked your ''attack''?''
Seems like I hit the spot.
You're not likeable. Go away.
Helzeth, you would either draw or lose the position. I'll even play it against you to prove it.
I'll play the engine and you play your regular old self.
I expect a loss withing twenty moves.
Ignore the opening.
All the variations work. I checked with Rybka just in case I messed up after, and it gives black a decisive advantage.