Off the Wall Chess - Queen's Pawn Counter Gambit

The opening 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5 is known as the Queen's Pawn Counter Gambit, sometimes called the Elephant Gambit.  It's rare at the master and grandmaster level, but seems playable.  I've experimented with it in a few Internet games.  Here is one of those games.  We castled on opposite sides, so my attack started at his king, which castled queenside.  I eventually broke through, winning the Queen, then mating.



  • 9 years ago


    I thought it's only called the Elephant Gambit if black plays 3. ... Bd6. I've tried that a few times, and it didn't seem that great. Maybe I'll try that early e4 push and queen recapture. It seems like it would completely change the character of the game compared to how I had been playing it.



  • 9 years ago


    Well, the Queen came out to grab the d-pawn.  When White played Nc3, the Queen has to go somewhere.  In the Center Counter game (1.e4 d5 3.exd5 Qxd5 4.Nc3), the Q has the option to go to Qa5.  But not this time.  It goes all the back to d8 so as not to block any bishop move and not come under attack again.  It doesn't need to defend the e-pawn.  Black can now play the bishops out to b4 or g4, or allow the knight to play to d7
  • 9 years ago


    6. Qd8. I've seen this move before, and always found it quite surprising that people decide to completely un-develop their queen, could anyone kindly explain the reasoning behind it? I would have played Queen's Bishop to G4?  (actually on second thoughts no I wouldn't, because they'd probably threaten to take it with either a Pawn (on F2) or his King's Bishop, and I'd have to lose my Bishop.


    So, besides that silly idea, any explanation behind undeveloping the Queen completely? Thanks :) 

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