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Oct 29, 2023
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What is other opening that can be used right now? , the Italian has been letting me down alot right now , I tried other openings but failed
Oct 29, 2023
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Up to what ELO is the Italian game I'm not so sure if I'm just going to use it every game
Oct 20, 2023
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Other than that I would recommend to read through forums and descriptions in this club, there are plenty of resources about the KIA.
Oct 20, 2023
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If you want particularly against the e5 maybe this video can help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhdoA4EvMzI
If you want to know ideas against the french, try this video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knRe3EsANdg&t=2s
Oct 20, 2023
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Yes you can do that for sure, It works particularly best against the french defense. There are a lot of games played by bobby fisher against the french. You can play the KIA against sicilian dragon setups which are slightly quiet but very positional. Against other sicilians I think Open sicilian with Maroczy bind pawn structure is phenomenally good with a fianchetto which can be achieved via KIA setup as well.
Against the Caro-Kann, delay Nf3, Lets say [1. e4 c6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 dxe4 4. dxe4]
Jul 9, 2023
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Basically, the links I had to those games had changed for unknown reasons. I was analyzing the wrong games.
Jul 9, 2023
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The notes I posted earlier that I had analyzed some KIA games were incorrect and I have removed those notes. I will explain what happened when I understand it better.
Jul 9, 2023
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Update: I did try leela with a different Chess GUI instead of chessbase, i tried "nibbler" its much more simpler and better in my opinion developer themselves recommends nibbler over chessbase. Problem with chessbase is that it is actually paid as well, we need to buy its database for better usage.
Jul 9, 2023
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thanks for the suggestion to use Leela, I did discover that its an open source project available on github and we can use Lc0 engine with Chessbase Reader. I did try it but the user interface is way too complex it will take some time to adjust to it. Lichess stockfish analysis board is comparatively much more user friendly I guess. Chessbase has too many options.
Jul 9, 2023
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The criteria with which engines rate positions was put there by humans according to what humans consider to be advantages, like open files etc. I would rather trust a program like Leela for these appraisals, but I don't know if that is available to ordinary souls like me.
Jul 9, 2023
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Its the same in Dutch defense as well, engine will say white is way too much better in the opening. But it gets better in the middlegame. The thing is King's Indian whether you play defense or attack is considered to be a little bit passive structurally as we don't fight for the space in centre immediately, also we kind of allow white to expand in queen side. The engine values piece activity and "SPACE". Except the e4 pawn you can notice everything is below 3rd rank. Engine doesn't like that.
Jul 8, 2023
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In addition I think it could be said that the 1.e4 variation of KIA would show White ahead and that it is only the 1.Nf3 variant that shows Black ahead. Since Fischer played KIA, Black has found ways to counter the k-side attack, mostly through what is referred to as "queen-side expansion". In general the KIA is not considered as strong now days as it was when Fischer played it.
Jul 8, 2023
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There are several hypermodern openings which engine analysis will show Black ahead during the opening part of the game. The general strategy is that if White can reach the middlegame with something close to equality, that he can outplay Black during the middlegame or endgame and win. The advantage in any opening is that you will know more about it than your opponent. Can you provide a specific game that provoked you to ask this question?
Jul 8, 2023
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This club was created to provide members with information about the Kings Indian Attack. There are links on the club main page to provide for that. There are topics in the club forum which can still be used for discussions on specific topics relating to the Kings Indian Attack. Vote chess was also provided for it's learning value but inly for playing the Kings Indian Attack but there was not enough member support for those games and there will be no more. It is more work for me than it is worth.
Jul 8, 2023
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I will look at some more games to figure it out.... also can we initiate a KIA vote chess ? I mean the club will remain inactive if we don't ... 🥲
Jul 8, 2023
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good description, i kind of asked my questions with multiple thoughts in my mind, what i am really looking after is how to really use that bishop after successfully achieving a closed position getting an f4 and beginning the kingside attack, it kind of gets in the way... i am not really sure how to use it or where to place it.
Jul 8, 2023
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By definition - the word "Indian" indicates a fianchetto as part of the start of a game. There's "King's Indian" and "Queen's Indian". With Black; it's the King's Indian "Defense". With White; it's the King's Indian "Attack". The bishop on g2 controls the longest light diagonal on the board. With the bishop on e2 it would be a different opening strategy altogether.
Jul 8, 2023
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Can someone explain or show why do we even fianchetto our bishop in Kings Indian Attack, I feel when we do get a closed position that bishop just gets in the way of attack would it not be better placed on e2 ?
Jun 17, 2023
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The club has been inactive in vote chess for some time now due to a lack of activity resulting in time-out.
Jun 16, 2023
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thanks for accepting, excited for some vote chess :)
