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In my opinion, I think we should increase the number of invites per day. 30 is too little, especially when success rates are at about 10%. 3 members joining per day is I'm afraid too little. Here are some arguments that people may have against this idea and what I think could help stop them. Some people say that we should keep it at 30 because it will reduce spam. I think that we should just make it so you can't invite the same person to your club twice in 6 months, or something of sort. In my opinion, if this is implemented, there is absolutely no problem with increasing the invites per day. I think this would actually be beneficial and reduce spam levels by a significant amount as people would be using the regular invites which monitor how many times you can invite the same person, instead of using private messages.

What I mean is that increasing the amount of real invites a club gets per day would incentivize using normal invites as opposed to messaging which is against the community guidelines, and if we just monitor the invites a little better, this would significantly reduce spam invites. Ways we could do this is monitoring the amount of times a club can invite a person per (for example) 6 months.

Thanks for listening to my suggestion and I hope you can consider it happy.png.

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IMRonilm1204 wrote:

If it ain't broken, then why fix it? 

Excuse me, but may you elaborate on what you just said?

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NAVEENJAIN108 wrote:

Second if in every group..... their many work to do, so if we concentrate on Success of club and put extra affords their,  we get positive results. 

I understand with what you said in both comments and strongly agree, however, it is very hard to build your club up with 30 invites unless you are well ranked in recommended clubs. Like I said there's like a 10% success rate, which means that if a club follows the rules, they will on average get 3 members per day. In my club we are focusing on quality, but we also want to get known as a quality and big club. happy.png  In my opinion, there isn't anything wrong with what I suggested.

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IMRonilm1204 wrote:

There is no issue with 30 invites...so why change it? 

CC is more focused on the parts of the site that don't run smoothly. 

Well yes, but this is a suggestion, not a bug report.

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IMRonilm1204 wrote:

If it ain't broken, then why fix it? 

Well if you read what I said, I said it will help reduce spam levels. This is an issue in chess.com. It may not be broken, but chess.com is already working & constantly fixing bugs.

 

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IMRonilm1204 wrote:

There is no issue with 30 invites...so why change it? 

CC is more focused on the parts of the site that don't run smoothly. 

There actually is an issue with 30 invites... It only gets like 3 members per day, which incentivizes messaging through PM which is against the guidelines.  

Avatar of Checkmate_06

I absolutely agree with this. Considering the fact that less people join, we need more invites. 

Avatar of hamideh1990

Yes 

I agree

Avatar of Ammerbucher

If you have 10 percent successful invites, that means that 27/30 people feel more or less bothered by your invite.

Try to see it this way ... 

Avatar of MainframeSupertasker

An intelligent admin would fetch >40% success rate for 30 invites. I've done that myself.

Avatar of Brian-E

The suggestion that the increase in spam would not take place if you place a limit of 6 months before being able to invite the same person, does not seem likely to me because the number of clubs is huge. I'm not certain, but my gut instinct suggests to me that the limit of 30 invitations per club per day really does curtail the spam.

 

Secondly, I think 30 per day is more than generous. If indeed 10% (i.e. 3 invitees per day) accept the invitation, you have a sizable club in a few weeks and a large one in a year or two. If that is too long and more immediate gratification is desired, then I question whether the founder is putting enough serious commitment into the club.

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To be honest, it's not likely we are going to increase this limit. There are other ways you can get individuals to join your groups such as word of mouth by the club members who are already in your club. 

You can also stream your club events on twitch or (any other platform) and gain attention that way. If you join the chess.com streaming program you could even stream your event on chess.com/tv. if you got to that point, I am sure you would have far more than 3 people joining your club. 

 

Cold invites, no matter how many you have, aren't going to be that effective. 

Avatar of Voodoooo

jdcannon - How do you go about joining the streaming programme?

Avatar of RejZePrez

Personally i am fed up with invites i don't want to receive from various clubs.
And as and Admin, i'm also fed-up that new club owners try to invites the best players of my club. Even if and admin have a limit of invitation per day, there is a lot of clubs and admins.

It is obvious that a lot of admins of the 100's or 1000's of club would like to upgrade their club with 1700's+ players, and it don't serve anybody to harrass continually those players. You will notice that a lot of them (good players), who are also tired of the situation, disable the message reception, and cut all mean of direct communication because of that. For and admin of a club that this player is a part of, it is a problem sometimes to have problem to write personaly to a player.
I think the actual limitation of invites per day is very fair and should not be upgraded.
And for admins of new clubs, take te time to upgrade the strengh of you team progressively, by your good management and your positive activity, instead of trying to catch other teams good members.

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Voodoooo wrote:

jdcannon - How do you go about joining the streaming programme?

 

I think the first step is just to start streaming on twitch. Establish a channel, then you can apply to the program. 

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RejZePrez wrote:

Personally i am fed up with invites i don't want to receive from various clubs.
And as and Admin, i'm also fed-up that new club owners try to invites the best players of my club. Even if and admin have a limit of invitation per day, there is a lot of clubs and admins.

It is obvious that a lot of admins of the 100's or 1000's of club would like to upgrade their club with 1700's+ players, and it don't serve anybody to harrass continually those players. You will notice that a lot of them (good players), who are also tired of the situation, disable the message reception, and cut all mean of direct communication because of that. For and admin of a club that this player is a part of, it is a problem sometimes to have problem to write personaly to a player.
I think the actual limitation of invites per day is very fair and should not be upgraded.
And for admins of new clubs, take te time to upgrade the strengh of you team progressively, by your good management and your positive activity, instead of trying to catch other teams good members.

You DO realise you can decline invites to groups in your account settings. 

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The point is not there blackfirestorm. The point is we don't need more access to excessive invitation from admins on stéroïdes.

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MainframeSupertasker wrote:

An intelligent admin would fetch >40% success rate for 30 invites. I've done that myself.

I can get up to 30 % when I invite, but somebody almost always does it before me.

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MainframeSupertasker wrote:

An intelligent admin would fetch >40% success rate for 30 invites. I've done that myself.

How do you have such a high success rate?? Mine is 15% at best.