Ethical-Cheating or Chess players Cheat

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MsJean

 

When asked if using computers in online chess is "inherently unethical" many consider it so. Users of computers are labeled "cheaters.

Competitors mention that they would personally gain no satisfaction from winning if they used computer assistance. 

On the otherhand many players would like to use an engine on line.There are  sites like ICC and FICS that allow the usage of engines if explicitly stated, so that everyone can see it, shown e.g. with a (C) next to the name.  Is this cheating? 

We are all aware of this article and agree that this was cheating..I assume ?

French Disciplinary Meeting (March 19th)

On cheating at chess using computers following French Federation verdict in Feller case

The FrenchFederation disciplinary case against Sebastien Feller, Cyril Marzolo and Arnaud Hauchard and computer cheating during the last Olympiad in Khanty-Mansiysk. Is an example but we have used machines for a long time..

The question is about all the new technology and how playing chess does or does not fit into its use.

 

kco

Thiers wives should be more careful who they get marry to next time. 

KeViN246

exactly

xDarkHorsex
kco wrote:

Thiers wives should be more careful who they get marry to next time. 


Hahaha

Knucklehead-2

No, we don't all cheat.  What is the fun in that?  My computer vs. yours?  Waste of time.  Go find WATSON, the IBM wiz.

EternalChess

old news

http://www.chess.com/news/cheater-caught-at-german-championships-6879?ncc=16#first_new_comment

Bornatnight1
I assume that most players never cheat, whether playing over the board or on line, but there are a few rotten apples in every bunch.
MsJean

 Im not the only one who thinks people cheat....

here is an interesting thread about it

.http://amirbagheri.virtuaboard.com/t34-ethical-cheating-in-online-chess

there are even tips on how to spot it

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/8655/DoctorUnclear.htm 
Tips on how to spot a computer cheater, what to do if you think someone cheated on you, official answers of all major ICSs to 8 questions regarding their policy on computer cheating, psychological profile of cheaters from author's perspective, personal testimonials of cheaters, messages and emails from both cheaters and non-cheating players and much more. Shortly, the ultimate anti-cheating site.

 

by suvadipray86
mumbai India 
Member Since: Apr 2010

hi. i have been playing chess for quite some. Whenevr i play a 10 min game i see that sometimes at the end of the game the quality of play of my opponent suddenly increases. i was 1750+  now it dropped to 1680. i dont mind losing but when i play 1500 players, i am beaten hands down sometimes. they play like they are 2200+. My point is why play against human opponents and use a computer. what is the point in increasing your stupid points and winning if u are cheating? i guess i have to stick to 1 and 3 min games. MOST ppl cheat and u can feel it. 

1pawndown

"Cheaters" are not chess players. They are computer operators, who undermine our game and pretend to be chess players.

MsJean

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess

Cheating in chess

 

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cheating in chess refers to a deliberate violation of the rules of chess or other unethical behaviour

that is intended to give an unfair advantage to a player or team. Cheating can occur in many

forms[1]and can take place before, during, or possibly even after a game. Commonly cited instances

of cheating include: collusion with spectators or other players linking to remote computers,

rating manipulation, misuse of the touch-move rule, the pre-arranged draw, and the use of

 psychological tactics to unsettle an opponent. Many suspiciously-motivated practices are not

comprehensively covered by the rules of chess and so, on ethical or 'moral conduct' grounds only,

may be judged by some as acceptable and by others, as cheating.

winerkleiner

Just look at my rating 1120, it is obvious I don't cheat, my IQ is so low I would have to cheat to cheat, ha.

Wine is fine and thicker than water and it's more fomented.

winerkleiner

If one cheats (by using a computer) then one is not using their brain, one is using their fingers.

Peace wine-os 

oinquarki

Great job helping stop the water crisis, dude.

winerkleiner

You are welcome, and wine contains water also, dude

oinquarki
winerkleiner wrote:

You are welcome, and wine contains water also, dude


What, really?; Then I hate you for destroying the planet.

Vjgator

Haters destroy ...

winerkleiner

oinquarki, humans (and that includes you?) are 70% water, do you hate yourself?

oinquarki

Laughing

MALVINSTARDUST

some people do cheat but im not allowed to say that lol

goldendog

Stop stop stop you guys with this Gordian knot of logic and rhetoric!

My heeeaaaad....

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