Misha Osipov
Who is the best person to beat Magnus Carlsen?
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Caruana will eventually get there.
Well...what I'm saying (or Howard Staunton hypothetically) is that with 10 seconds Fischer, there should only be 6 minutes 51 seconds clock to produce double the move rate after 40 moves. Conversely, using his hypothetical rules, 25 minutes will require 38 seconds Fischer minimum. The 10 seconds Fischer in the latter case virtually produces guillotine conditions, which will severely compromise the typical challenger if they are not seasoned blitz players. This in my book is chicanery, and advantages the current champion who is more likely to be in that position, quite obviously. The same deal is offered simultaneous exhibition challengers, when they are allowed to pass only once. Not passing at all would be the more honest deal with the same effect. These conditions allow the current "champions" to maintain a "status quo", or play for draws, until the threat passes with a guillotine equivalent reached. All very subtle and insidious, but rather underhanded, don't you think? The old rules style of "two wins up, draws not counted" forces play for wins, as in tournaments, without the "get out of jail free card", and the pretence of exaggerated superiority.
Vishy Anand
Vishy Anand
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Dec 18, 2016
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Wesley So just won his first major tournament. Let me repeat: his first.
SmyslovFan wrote:
Wesley So just won his first major tournament. Let me repeat: his first.
Yeah... his first in months! What a resurgence!
Dec 18, 2016
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I'm sorry, I was wrong. I had read that on another site and didn't bother to fact check it. Of course So has won major tournaments before. I'll have to figure out what that other site was on about.
But anyway, I think the best person to beat Carlsen is Veselin Topalov. He just demolished Aronian today, who is basically just as good as Carlsen.
Dec 18, 2016
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I see now that Wesley So claimed this was the biggest win of his career. Someone else said this was the first big win of his career, which isn't quite true.
Also, this was the first time that So has broken the 2800 barrier in live chess.
The Second Place Curse?
Over the last couple of years, a number of players have risen to the second wrung of the ladder only to slip back into the pack. Anand, MVL, Nakamura, Aronian, and Topalov have all been members of the 2800 club (Giri came close at 2798). All have since retreated 25-50 rating points.
Right now, Wesley So is peaking. He has also made the greatest improvement of any player over the last two years. If the next championship match was to take place in the next 3-6 months, Wesley might be the odds on favorite to challenge Magnus. But since the next Candidates Tournament won't be held until late 2017 or early 2018, who can say.
loubalch wrote:
The Second Place Curse?
Over the last couple of years, a number of players have risen to the second wrung of the ladder only to slip back into the pack. Anand, MVL, Nakamura, Aronian, and Topalov have all been members of the 2800 club (Giri came close at 2798). All have since retreated 25-50 rating points.
Right now, Wesley So is peaking. He has also made the greatest improvement of any player over the last two years. If the next championship match was to take place in the next 3-6 months, Wesley might be the odds on favorite to challenge Magnus. But since the next Candidates Tournament won't be held until late 2017 or early 2018, who can say.
And Grischuk. He's retreated a bit more than 25-20 points (but so has Topalov).
Who is the best person to beat Magnus Carlsen?
macer75 wrote:
And Grischuk. He's retreated a bit more than 25-20 points (but so has Topalov).
You're right! At one time (Dec 2014), Grischuk had a rating of 2810. Now, at 2742, he's dropped 68 rating points.
68 is a long way, Grischuk chances are gone
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Elubas wrote:
No, not really. If anything, you're more biased because you're being contrarian. Holding a view just because it's "less obvious." But while less obvious views are sometimes right, more often they're not.
Even Kasparov only won, what, 5 WCC matches or something? Magnus is already on his way.
"Imagine someone stronger than Sergey faced Magnus in the WC (Sergey obviously won the challenger but I don't think he's the strongest or has the best chance to beat MC), it could very well dethrone him."
If you were unbiased then you would also be willing to imagine that Magnus plays much better than he did in his match against Sergey. But bias does tend to try to define a player by one single event, rather than the aggregate of many events.
You are such a Carlsen fan boy. He has won two matches and against an old man who is only a shell of his former self. He did NOT just win a match against Karjakin. The match was tied.
Kasparov played 8 world chess championship matches. One was aborted, one was lost, and one was tied. He won five.
All of Carlsen's matches have been so short they can't even be considered legitimate in comparison to past champions.
Well, I said he was on his way. If I said he equaled Kasparov, that would be real bias, wouldn't you agree? But if I said he's on his way, that's quite different. So, don't you think you should have a more nuanced way of understanding what people say, instead of making "on his way" a synonym for "equaled Kasparov," even though it very clearly is not?
"He did NOT just win a match against Karjakin. The match was tied."
So I guess we define wins differently? Magnus is still world champion, but he didn't win the world championship? Besides, Kasparov won one of his matches by tying up the score against Karpov, since that counted as a WCC win back then. So if you want to say Magnus didn't "really" win that Karjakin match, surely by the same logic Kasparov didn't "really" beat Karpov that one time?
And if anything, the fact that the match is 12 games would probably favor the challenger, wouldn't it? Because if a quick accident happens there is less time for the world champion to come back, and this was in fact the case for Magnus when he lost his game to Karjakin. So I could argue that the 12 game match actually proves more in the sense that the match favored the challenger more so than a longer match would.
Gary kasparov