Im 28 is there any point in me taking up chess seriously? would it be a waste of time?

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chadpeck01

Im 28 years old and have played chess on and off throughout my life ive never competed in tournaments but eventually want to get to the point where i can become a titled player i have just recently started to take chess seriously since november 2020 so been playing seriously for a few months now ive seen a gradual climb in my rating starting at 800 and now can sit quite easily at 1050 but if i really put in the effort can reach 1200. i currently spend 5 hrs a day studying and playing chess down at the local library, i read chess books and watch youtube videos also in my spare time (currently all my spare time i have i dedicate to chess). What i really want to know is if all this study and stuff has just been a waste of time am i too old to eventually get an IM title or eventually a few years down the track a GM title (i know going for a GM title will take decades) but I am willing to put in the time if it is possible if not should i quit now and find another hobby. thanks heaps please serous replies any information will help

LeeEuler

It's only a waste of time if your only goal is to get the title. If you like chess in it of itself, then any time spent is not time wasted. By virtue of you asking the question, I assume you know the odds are not in your favor. But that doesn't mean it's impossible. Either way, I wish you luck!

NikkiLikeChikki
As far as anyone knows, amongst living GMs, the latest any of them has started is 17 (Ye from China). Pal Benko said that he knew of no chess GM who started after 20. 🤷‍♀️
destroyer8470_Inactive

I recommend this video Stuck At Chess? Click here. - YouTube

blueemu

Oscar Shapiro gained the USCF Master title at age 74.

AKnight01

Maybe you should focus on different areas of chess. I see from your losses: 1) your defense is poor; check your opponent's every move to see if they are attacking anything. Sometimes they're attacking two; save the more important one.

2) You fall for combos, only reacting to the first move and failing to see its purpose; if something attacks you, don't auto think "great, free piece." Maybe what you're using to capture was guarding what they really wanted and is now defenseless.

3) You need to study strategy. Most of the time your pieces just wander around without purpose.

Right now, probably spend more on daily games than rapid. Take as much time to find the "best" move.

nTzT

If you only want to play chess for an IM or GM title then maybe you should find a different hobby. But if you enjoy chess and want to get as good as you can, do it. Enjoy the ride. You are still really young and a lot of people have improved tons at older ages when brand new to the game.

blueemu
nTzT wrote:

... a lot of people have improved tons at older ages...

I was rated under 2100 at 57 years old. I'm now 64...

IsraeliGal

if u mean by seriously being making a living off it, yes u are way too late. 

There's only 2 ways ur making a living off chess: 

1. Start playing chess from your toddler years and be naturally gifted in chess enough to become a gm by the age of 16, and then become one of the best players in the world, get sponsers, big money matches, championship matches etc.

2. Become a really successful online entertainer, like a twitch streamer etc.

The chance of the 2nd one happening at this point for u are astronomically low, and ur too late for the 2nd one. So in short, no.

 

 

 

llama47

GM doesn't actually take decades. People who get it usually get it in less than 10 years... and people who study for more than 10 years have usually stopped improving by then.

Yeah, you're too old for IM or GM, but almost no one plays chess to get one of those titles... including IMs and GMs. People play because it's a fun game, and because it's satisfying to improve.

aidan0816

If your only goal is to achieve an IM title or higher, then yes, you're probably wasting your time.  Play the game because you enjoy it, because you enjoy getting better and achieving something.  Maybe some day you'll actually be good enough to get to that level!  But realistically, the vast majority of people who pick up chess never will be.  Just set your sights on something small and attainable; work on getting your rating up to 1500.  And then from there, set your sights a little bit higher, and a little bit higher.  Maybe you'll one day receive a title, but even if you don't, getting up to a rating of 1500 is something most chess players won't ever do, and is definitely something to be proud of.

blueemu
llama47 wrote:

People play because it's a fun game, and because it's satisfying to improve.

I play chess to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women.

It's a hobby.

sndeww
blueemu wrote:
nTzT wrote:

... a lot of people have improved tons at older ages...

I was rated under 2100 at 57 years old. I'm now 64...

NikkiLikeChikki
Ben Finegold reached GM status at 40, I believe, but he had been playing chess for as long as he could remember. Sure you can attain a title at late, but they all started early. I’m not sure about IM, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a few had started in their 20s. There are over twice as many IMs than GMs, and over 4 times as many FMs.
llama47
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Ben Finegold reached GM status at 40, I believe

Yeah, but he was a strong IM at 16 or something, so...

RJMan1991
I’m 29 and have been asking myself some of the same or similar questions. I’ve decided that someday, assuming I live that long, I’ll be 60 years old- and I have the ability to choose whether I reached such an age with or without chess in my life. But once I get there, I can’t take anything back if I regret a decision. I’d advise you to pursue the game while you’re still 28 as opposed to 58.
Uhohspaghettio1

tfw you really want to correct someone, but you know they're too dumb to understand what you mean and why it's right and will try to argue back, and you don't want to waste your time getting into another stupid argument online. 

 

 

NikkiLikeChikki
Oh, no doubt @llama. For a long time he was considered the strongest (by rating) IM in the world, and had a higher rating than many GMs. It was just that at the time there weren’t many GM norm tournaments in the US and traveling abroad was expensive.

I was more bringing it up because many people say something like player X received Y title at Z age, which misses the point that they had been playing their whole lives.
llama47
Optimissed wrote:

I took it up at 36, won a lot of tournaments, enjoyed myself, made more friends than enemies and acquired a female stalker, all through chess.

Giri is in his 20s, 2700 FIDE, and wins no tournaments, but I guess as a beginner 36 year old you were just a lot better wink.png

Uhohspaghettio1
llama47 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I took it up at 36, won a lot of tournaments, enjoyed myself, made more friends than enemies and acquired a female stalker, all through chess.

Giri is in his 20s, 2700 FIDE, and wins no tournaments, but I guess as a beginner 36 year old you were just a lot better

I'm not trying to argue but I'm legitimately curious - is there actually something medically wrong with you mentally? Whether in reasoning or psychologically.