Incredible toxicity in the chess community

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deadlockdev wrote:

Beginners and intermediates can barely ask questions without being attacked for their skill or mistakes. As far as I'm concerned this is the absolute worst community I've ever seen and I wish it wasn't because I love chess

I've very rarely seen this, can you give an example?

I tend to think it's more the opposite. The ridiculous and low level of the discussions on the forums tends to drive away anyone who actually knows and enjoys talking about chess.

Since I asked you for an example, here's one from me to characterize the forums as just a lighthearted group of kids who don't talk about chess in any case:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-com-community/hi-my-name-is-stockfish-ama-ask-me-anything-50020072?page=1

a_saint

Toxicity, it's in our city

AyushBlundersAgain
FizzyBand wrote:

"People use their rating like some kind of social credit system"

Yeah that is basically how the chess world works like it or not, The higher rating you have the more respect you get

Unless you're Tal Baron and get caught cheating in a Titled Tuesday lol

Lion_kingkiller

Oh no. Not another @llama?! What's wrong with a hawk, eagle, tiger etc.

Laskersnephew
It’s the internet, you have to get used to it. Compared to many popular sites, the level of toxicity is not all that great here. It will help if you learn to ignore most of the crap you run into here. Personally, I’ve learned to ignore any attack that doesn’t include a threat to behead me and set fire to my corpse
autobunny
llama03 wrote:
deadlockdev wrote:

Beginners and intermediates can barely ask questions without being attacked for their skill or mistakes. As far as I'm concerned this is the absolute worst community I've ever seen and I wish it wasn't because I love chess

I've very rarely seen this, can you give an example?

I tend to think it's more the opposite. The ridiculous and low level of the discussions on the forums tends to drive away anyone who actually knows and enjoys talking about chess.

Since I asked you for an example, here's one from me to characterize the forums as just a lighthearted group of kids who don't talk about chess in any case:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-com-community/hi-my-name-is-stockfish-ama-ask-me-anything-50020072?page=1

Actually saw the op bring up toxicity the moment his rating was attacked on another thread and thought then that he was just over reacting.  But he does seem to be specifically targeted for reasons unknown. 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/i-developed-a-chess-tool-for-beginners#comment-50338996

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/im-hopless#comment-50334936

Maybe just coincidence? 

Lc0_1
SNUDOO wrote:

Lots of toxicity in the internet... I try to balance toxicity and niceness here. A bit of both is healthy

Agreed.

Lion_kingkiller

And I agree with the toxic dude... the forum here gets more and more vicious, nasty, aggressive by the day. Or just plain silly. Even Carlsen or Fabi had a rubbish club rating at one point.

Lion_kingkiller

@laskernephew... what if I behead you, but give your corpse respect?

autobunny
Lion_kingkiller wrote:

@laskernephew... what if I behead you, but give your corpse respect?

What does a corpse care about anything, leave alone respect. 

llama
Lion_kingkiller wrote:

Oh no. Not another @llama?! What's wrong with a hawk, eagle, tiger etc.

Or maybe a lion?

qingDesolate
llama03 wrote:
Lion_kingkiller wrote:

Oh no. Not another @llama?! What's wrong with a hawk, eagle, tiger etc.

Or maybe a lion?

Joined in 2016...

jumphrope
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llama
autobunny wrote:
llama03 wrote:
deadlockdev wrote:

Beginners and intermediates can barely ask questions without being attacked for their skill or mistakes. As far as I'm concerned this is the absolute worst community I've ever seen and I wish it wasn't because I love chess

I've very rarely seen this, can you give an example?

I tend to think it's more the opposite. The ridiculous and low level of the discussions on the forums tends to drive away anyone who actually knows and enjoys talking about chess.

Since I asked you for an example, here's one from me to characterize the forums as just a lighthearted group of kids who don't talk about chess in any case:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-com-community/hi-my-name-is-stockfish-ama-ask-me-anything-50020072?page=1

Actually saw the op bring up toxicity the moment his rating was attacked on another thread and thought then that he was just over reacting.  But he does seem to be specifically targeted for reasons unknown. 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/i-developed-a-chess-tool-for-beginners#comment-50338996

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/im-hopless#comment-50334936

Maybe just coincidence? 

Even worse than being mocked for his rating, he actually gave good advice (opening principals).

I see he ran into some nasty people. Coincidence? I don't know.

Two things come to mind, first is that first impressions can be misleading. I remember joining a different forum a few years ago and the first person I ran into was a troll, and after that bad experience it took a while before I warmed up the largely nice community.

Second is that one of those guy's accounts is 1 day old so... yeah. Just ignore nasty new accounts.

The other account is 9 years old with ~100 games and ~100 posts... which is odd. Not necessarily a sleeper account, maybe rediscovered chess due to the virus, but still, this is another type of account I'd suggest new people ignore.

llama
The_HighGround wrote:
llama03 wrote:
Lion_kingkiller wrote:

Oh no. Not another @llama?! What's wrong with a hawk, eagle, tiger etc.

Or maybe a lion?

Joined in 2016...

Or maybe 2010

sndeww
llama03 wrote:
The_HighGround wrote:
llama03 wrote:
Lion_kingkiller wrote:

Oh no. Not another @llama?! What's wrong with a hawk, eagle, tiger etc.

Or maybe a lion?

Joined in 2016...

Or maybe 2010

aha, so did you reopen something?

autobunny

Only Pandora's box

llama
SNUDOO wrote:
llama03 wrote:
The_HighGround wrote:
llama03 wrote:
Lion_kingkiller wrote:

Oh no. Not another @llama?! What's wrong with a hawk, eagle, tiger etc.

Or maybe a lion?

Joined in 2016...

Or maybe 2010

aha, so did you reopen something?

Added an explanation in my profile.

This account's name was "telestu" and it was muted for repeatedly accusing a person of cheating. I abandoned the account and forgot about it until recently.

llama
autobunny wrote:

Only Pandora's box

 

I wonder if that would make a nice profile pic, hmm.

autobunny
Optimissed wrote:
Wazir20 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

It's only a few people. Most are fine. Unfortunately the few sometimes have most to say.

Yes only a few people but what about if their toxicity is too much... i saw only a few genuine members on chess.com

It's a bit cliquey .... that's probably the most off-putting. Or as my wife's mother would have said, clicks.

She must hate it when the mice form clicks.