Best positional play book for 1800 player

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SmyslovFan

If you don't want to improve your chess, continue arguing over the semantic differences of positional and strategic chess. 

If you're interested in improving your chess, there have been some excellent books that have already been mentioned!

NimzoRoy
SmyslovFan wrote:

If you don't want to improve your chess, continue arguing over the semantic differences of positional and strategic chess. 

If you're interested in improving your chess, there have been some excellent books that have already been mentioned!

+1 Tongue Out

royalbishop
SmyslovFan wrote:

If you don't want to improve your chess, continue arguing over the semantic differences of positional and strategic chess. 

If you're interested in improving your chess, there have been some excellent books that have already been mentioned!

Yea and 2 of them are on their way to my house. Hope to get them by this weekend. I will take a quick look over them and if i really like what i see i will give them the 2 thumbs up.

kikvors

The orange Yusupov books! (build up your chess 1, boost your chess 1, chess revolution 1). 1850 is a fine rating to work with them, and he'll probably be ready to move on to the blue ones afterwards.

You can't really learn chess by just reading about it, you have to do actual work. Most strategy books contain a lot of text so it's far too easy to just read them and not work with them. The Yusupov books put the emphasis on exercises and on a mix of all sorts of positional and tactical themes so you get a comprehensive chess education.

royalbishop
kikvors wrote:

The orange Yusupov books! (build up your chess 1, boost your chess 1, chess revolution 1). 1850 is a fine rating to work with them, and he'll probably be ready to move on to the blue ones afterwards.

You can't really learn chess by just reading about it, you have to do actual work. Most strategy books contain a lot of text so it's far too easy to just read them and not work with them. The Yusupov books put the emphasis on exercises and on a mix of all sorts of positional and tactical themes so you get a comprehensive chess education.

Blue books ...... 1900 Rank?

Moyuba

i'm no where near 1850 uscf otb rating, probably between 1300-1400 if i had to guess, and so far i have found the first yusupov book very easy going. i'm about half way through build up your chess and so far it has been a little annoying setting up a position, looking at it for two seconds, finding the answer and then having to set up the next position. 

 

i don't know if the second and third orange books are any harder, but i would imagine the blue books would be better for someone of that rating. 

royalbishop
Moyuba wrote:

i'm no where near 1850 uscf otb rating, probably between 1300-1400 if i had to guess, and so far i have found the first yusupov book very easy going. i'm about half way through build up your chess and so far it has been a little annoying setting up a position, looking at it for two seconds, finding the answer and then having to set up the next position. 

 

i don't know if the second and third orange books are any harder, but i would imagine the blue books would be better for someone of that rating. 

Many advantages to setting up the board. Your eyes have to scan the board for the location of the pieces. And it is way to easy to click the mouse and move. When you hand has to reach out and touch the piece and move it. It gives you more time to think while doing this action.

And the more time you set boards up the quicker you become at it. After doing it 20 times ok, then 50 times it was like nothing. Set the pawns up first and then the pices as you will know exactly where to put them by just glancing at the book 1-2 times.

Scottrf
Moyuba wrote:

i'm no where near 1850 uscf otb rating, probably between 1300-1400 if i had to guess, and so far i have found the first yusupov book very easy going. i'm about half way through build up your chess and so far it has been a little annoying setting up a position, looking at it for two seconds, finding the answer and then having to set up the next position. 

 


Well, I've seen quite a few of the problems in the tactics trainer 2000-2200 range, and they are the easier ones IMO. The positional type problems I find far more difficult (centralization, outpost chapters). e.g. Pin/Discovered attack I scored max and would find them as fairly high rated TT problems.

kikvors
Moyuba schreef:

i'm no where near 1850 uscf otb rating, probably between 1300-1400 if i had to guess, and so far i have found the first yusupov book very easy going. i'm about half way through build up your chess and so far it has been a little annoying setting up a position, looking at it for two seconds, finding the answer and then having to set up the next position.

I can imagine that for the * problems (I don't setup those on a board, just write down the answer), but not for the *** problems. And I can also see it for the tactical problems, but not the positional ones. Or you are not being sufficiently strict with yourself in terms of seeing all the lines.

royalbishop

30+ comments was hoping to see long list of books. I went to the book store and had the same results. The touched on almost every other subject but positional play. I say i saw 3-5 out of 250 books that i could use at my level. In all say 400 books on chess.

plutonia
Scottrf wrote:
Moyuba wrote:

i'm no where near 1850 uscf otb rating, probably between 1300-1400 if i had to guess, and so far i have found the first yusupov book very easy going. i'm about half way through build up your chess and so far it has been a little annoying setting up a position, looking at it for two seconds, finding the answer and then having to set up the next position. 

 


Well, I've seen quite a few of the problems in the tactics trainer 2000-2200 range, and they are the easier ones IMO. The positional type problems I find far more difficult (centralization, outpost chapters). e.g. Pin/Discovered attack I scored max and would find them as fairly high rated TT problems.

 

Did you do the chess mentor courses?

Especially "roots of positional understanding" is a really good course, it's 1 move problems just like TT, but on strategy.

Scottrf

Done a few, not that one, thanks. Looks a bit high rated though.

GasconJR

I agree with Kavanam for this level Simple Chess is a great book. I knew that because when i was an aproximately 1800 player i used it with my dad :) ... And about GrandMaster Preparation Positional Play by GM Aagaard im sure that should be a great book (because all Aagaards book are great) but maybe is a little bit more advanced. I recommended first Simple Chess and then the Aagaard book. I should also recommended Strategy by Lev Alburt.

royalbishop
Scottrf wrote:

Done a few, not that one, thanks. Looks a bit high rated though.


How many pages and price?

b5squared
JRgascon wrote:

I agree with Kavanam for this level Simple Chess is a great book. I knew that because when i was an aproximately 1800 player i used it with my dad :) ... And about GrandMaster Preparation Positional Play by GM Aagaard im sure that should be a great book (because all Aagaards book are great) but maybe is a little bit more advanced. I recommended first Simple Chess and then the Aagaard book. I should also recommended Strategy by Lev Alburt.

I went through the simple chess book with him.  Maybe I should go through it with him again.

b5squared
plutonia wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Moyuba wrote:

i'm no where near 1850 uscf otb rating, probably between 1300-1400 if i had to guess, and so far i have found the first yusupov book very easy going. i'm about half way through build up your chess and so far it has been a little annoying setting up a position, looking at it for two seconds, finding the answer and then having to set up the next position. 

 


Well, I've seen quite a few of the problems in the tactics trainer 2000-2200 range, and they are the easier ones IMO. The positional type problems I find far more difficult (centralization, outpost chapters). e.g. Pin/Discovered attack I scored max and would find them as fairly high rated TT problems.

 

Did you do the chess mentor courses?

Especially "roots of positional understanding" is a really good course, it's 1 move problems just like TT, but on strategy.

Thank you.  It looks like a great course.  Wow, 300 problems.  Cool.

Ricardo_Morro

Modern Chess Strategy by Ludek Pachman.

GasconJR

Yeah also the chess mentor is a great training system. Another useful thing is found a trainer. Here in www.chess.com there is a lot you can also look on your city. 

ChrisWainscott
JRgascon wrote:

I agree with Kavanam for this level Simple Chess is a great book. I knew that because when i was an aproximately 1800 player i used it with my dad :) ... And about GrandMaster Preparation Positional Play by GM Aagaard im sure that should be a great book (because all Aagaards book are great) but maybe is a little bit more advanced. I recommended first Simple Chess and then the Aagaard book. I should also recommended Strategy by Lev Alburt.


Are you talking about Chess Strategy for Club Players or whatever the actual name is?  I have the tactics books related to that and it's very good so I've always wondered about the strategy book...

royalbishop
ChrisWainscott wrote:
JRgascon wrote:

I agree with Kavanam for this level Simple Chess is a great book. I knew that because when i was an aproximately 1800 player i used it with my dad :) ... And about GrandMaster Preparation Positional Play by GM Aagaard im sure that should be a great book (because all Aagaards book are great) but maybe is a little bit more advanced. I recommended first Simple Chess and then the Aagaard book. I should also recommended Strategy by Lev Alburt.


Are you talking about Chess Strategy for Club Players or whatever the actual name is?  I have the tactics books related to that and it's very good so I've always wondered about the strategy book...

How many pages? games?