On Extra Queens

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Avatar of thunder197

personally, it doesn't bother me.  In blitz they can be useful, but as a player who rarely plays any quick games, I almost never use the extra queen.  It really only comes into play when some poor sap who is already beaten refuses to resign and she serves to expediate the final mate.  

Avatar of chesskingdreamer
Cyklone wrote:

Kaynight, I suppose it's possible that a pawn could reach the last rank before any pieces were captured, but I can't imagine it would happen in a real life game.  However, just to cover all situations, another rule could be added saying that a pawn could not be moved to the last rank until a piece had been captured.  In fact, this rule was used in the past (see the link at the end of this post).

And yes, I am serious about changing the rules, even though I am just a chess club hack.  Here are some reasons why I believe this change would make chess a richer and more interesting game:

1.  Having two or more queens on the board gives a player an overwhelming advantage that no opponent can withstand.  Most likely, the game is pretty much over as soon as the extra queen appears.

2.  The rule change would add a slight degree of tactical decision making.  For example, do I push my pawn now even though my opponent has only captured a couple knights and a bishop, or do I focus on something else until my promoted pawn can be exchanged for a greater reward?

3.  Chess has a theme, even if it is a highly abstracted one.  Two armies are battling, each headed by a king along with his queen.  Royal polygamy aside, we traditionally think of a king and a queen, not a king and his queens.  Allowing extra queens on the board violates the theme of chess.

4.  Also, consistent with this theme, we could think of a pawn sneaking into the enemy's fortification and freeing one of the captured pieces.  But in doing so, the pawn is itself captured.  It shouldn’t be possible for the pawn to free the queen if the queen is still on the board.

 I know that some of you may laugh.  Change the rules of chess?  Never!  But in fact, a restricted pawn promotion rule has been used in the past.  See this link:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_(chess)#History_of_the_rule


Now watch this absolutely brilliant game unfold:

Now, you're dead lost. How do you survive?

 
Just stop the puzzle after you play Ng4.



Avatar of pjr2468

How could a pawn get to the end and promote without any pieces being captured? Unless one of those bloody squirrel monkeys had pilfered an opposition pawn there would be no way through for your promoting pawn unless it jumped over the afore mentioned opposing pawns.

Or is there a rule that says once a pawn gets a certain distance up the board unobstructed, all pieces must give way to it?

Avatar of Scottrf

In chess people don't normally refer to pawns as pieces pjreed.

Avatar of Vandarringa

OK, it looks like people largely don't care.  My suspicions have been confirmed.  I suppose the extra queens will continue to irk me, but thank you all for the wonderful suggestions.  Upon reflection, hurling those stray queens after a nasty loss might be the best course of action.

Avatar of m_liguori

Why stop at 2 queens?

Avatar of LogoCzar

What if you promote all 8 of your pawns to queens? (and still lose)

https://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=149121798