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santiagomagno15
santiagomagno15
Feb 12, 2020
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#4041

great post

forked_again
forked_again
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Feb 12, 2020
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#4042
Audioq wrote:
forked_again wrote:

What size Jaques reproductions are true to the originals.  Is it 3.5" for the library sets and 4" for the club?  Were there other sizes as well?  

 

 

I think when Jaques first sold their sets they defined the size by base diameter not by height. But I think today this translates to 4 3/8" being Club size, 4" being called Small Club size, 3 1/2" Tournament size and anything smaller being referred to as Library size.

So they made smaller than 3.5?  I know HOS makes 3 inch sets and calls them exact reproductions, but I was not clear if that was a size they really made, especially in the 1800s?

forked_again
forked_again
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Feb 12, 2020
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#4043
rcmacmillan wrote:
Yes, @forked_again, they made Library size sets as early as 1860, according to Dr. Fersht’s book, which shows a price list from that year. It is indicated as a size 000 with a king’s base size of 1-3/8”. These kings were 2-3/4 to 3” in height.

Thank you sir.  

zagryan
zagryan
Feb 13, 2020
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#4044
BattleDuck wrote:
zagryan wrote:

Why is the box from a Jaques set so important? Aside from proving authenticity, the pieces get all banged up inside. And these pieces are not exactly cheap.

 

Collectors want all the original parts that came with the items. Once massive sums of money are on the table reason is out of the window. Fewer collectible items still have the “box and papers” and since it is more rare it is worth more to collectors. No one is buying 5000$ chess sets because they want to play games with strangers on a park bench. Same rule goes for other collectibles too, old toys, watches etc. 

Thanks for the explanation. That makes perfect sense. The reason I asked was because some weekends ago, I happened to come across an old fuzzy youtube video on Jaques Staunton uploaded by a gentleman named chesspy, where he was describing in painstaking detail the great effort that went into restoring the pieces being reviewed... only to dump them into a Jaques box at the end. I screamed, "No!!!!!!"

IpswichMatt
IpswichMatt
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Feb 13, 2020
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#4045

Alan "chessspy" Dewey used to post here

IpswichMatt
IpswichMatt
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Feb 13, 2020
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#4046

Maybe, if I can ever afford to retire from my day job!

Impractical
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Feb 16, 2020
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#4047

EZY1981, That looks like a Jeffrey Parker leather board.  Pretty sweet.

EZY1981
EZY1981
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Feb 18, 2020
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#4048

After years of dissatisfaction receiving reproduction sets with sorry-looking shades of what’s supposed to be patina ....we finally took the decision to move the antiquing process to Uk 🇬🇧 and the result is simply marvellous, we are thrilled and excited to be able to offer collectors what can only be described as the world’s finest Jaques reproduction chess sets ever!

 


TundraMike
TundraMike
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Feb 18, 2020
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#4049
EZY1981 wrote:

After years of dissatisfaction receiving reproduction sets with sorry-looking shades of what’s supposed to be patina ....we finally took the decision to move the antiquing process to Uk 🇬🇧 and the result is simply marvellous, we are thrilled and excited to be able to offer collectors what can only be described as the world’s finest Jaques reproduction chess sets ever!

 

 

That is a patina like finish that is right on the money. Best one I have ever seen. You should do all the antiquing in the UK.  Hands down the best finish that resembles patina. Thank you for going the extra step.  

greghunt
greghunt
Feb 18, 2020
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#4050
EZY1981 wrote:

After years of dissatisfaction receiving reproduction sets with sorry-looking shades of what’s supposed to be patina ....we finally took the decision to move the antiquing process to Uk 🇬🇧 and the result is simply marvellous, we are thrilled and excited to be able to offer collectors what can only be described as the world’s finest Jaques reproduction chess sets ever!

 

 

 

EZY1981
EZY1981
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Feb 18, 2020
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#4051

Mike ..Thanks so much 😊

EZY1981
EZY1981
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Feb 18, 2020
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#4052

Hi Greg I prefer not to disclose as the Indians will now be actively trying to do this so they can flood the market ... we will be making small limited runs only 

greghunt
greghunt
Feb 18, 2020
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#4053
EZY1981 wrote:

Hi Greg I prefer not to disclose as the Indians will now be actively trying to do this so they can flood the market ... we will be making small limited runs only 

no problem, I understand what kind of market you are in, it does look much more natural

EZY1981
EZY1981
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Feb 18, 2020
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#4054

Thanks Greg 

EZY1981
EZY1981
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Feb 23, 2020
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#4055

EZY1981
EZY1981
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Feb 23, 2020
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#4056
Haverumwilltravel wrote:

HoS Camaratta Centurion . They look the same except this set was not antiqued just a natural finish.

That's an aged set though 😉

Gomer_Pyle
Gomer_Pyle
Feb 23, 2020
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#4057

I don't know how long it takes to age a set. I have a 30 year old set that is at least that yellowed. It has seen very little sun. It's just a cheap set I bought in the '80s. Some years ago I posted a couple pictures of it and someone expressed interest in seeing more of it. I fully intend to do so someday. I believe I still have a bookmark to that thread on another computer. It's just that it's only been a few years and posting more of it now could jeopardize my ranking in the Procrastinators Club of America.

greghunt
greghunt
Feb 23, 2020
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#4058
Gomer_Pyle wrote:

I don't know how long it takes to age a set. I have a 30 year old set that is at least that yellowed. It has seen very little sun. 

Its not just sunlight that ages wood.  Oxygen, temperature, and I suspect humidity, all play a part.  

Audioq
Audioq
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Feb 23, 2020
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#4059
greghunt wrote:
Gomer_Pyle wrote:

I don't know how long it takes to age a set. I have a 30 year old set that is at least that yellowed. It has seen very little sun. 

Its not just sunlight that ages wood.  Oxygen, temperature, and I suspect humidity, all play a part.  

Yes and one of the most important agents has to be dirt, oil etc from handling? 

greghunt
greghunt
Feb 23, 2020
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#4060
Audioq wrote:
greghunt wrote:
Gomer_Pyle wrote:

I don't know how long it takes to age a set. I have a 30 year old set that is at least that yellowed. It has seen very little sun. 

Its not just sunlight that ages wood.  Oxygen, temperature, and I suspect humidity, all play a part.  

Yes and one of the most important agents has to be dirt, oil etc from handling? 

Not really, many types of wood darken with age, even without handling.  I have some veneer in the workshop that is a few years old now that was a cream almost white colour when it was new and is now an orangey-yellow, just from sitting in a dark corner. Putting a finish on the wood slows the process but doesn't stop it.  If it was just dirt and oil it would clean off fairly easily.