Which mark dvoretsky endgame book to buy

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MonsterTactics

I was planning on either buying Studies for Practical Players: Improving Calculation and Resourcefulness in the Endgame or Tragicomedy in the Endgame: Instructive Mistakes of the Masters.  Since I am assuming that they are both excellent reads and reading on Amazon didn't give me much indication to which was better I would like to get some of your guys' opinions.  If it helps my otb rating is around 2000 Fide.

Moyuba

why not get his endgame manual?

SmyslovFan

I was wondering the same thing, Moyuba. Sometimes the obvious choice is the best choice. But I don't know what other books MonsterTactics has, why he is limiting his endgame books to ones written by Dvoretsky or any other criteria.

LikeTheLake

Hey MonsterTactics.  Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual is perhaps the most well known book by the author.  The rating necessary to study it is way overrated in my opinion.  At best I am a Class B player and the book is just fine for me to understand about 80 to 90% of it.  There is 10% that, yes, it is beyond me but I just skip those pages when it happens.  Other than that it is a fantastic book with so many ideas to try in your game that just by simply reading it you get a sense that you know more.  Once you buy the book we have a group if you would like to join.  Cheers.

http://www.chess.com/groups/home/dvoretskys-endgame-manual-sturdy-group

MonsterTactics
pfren wrote:

Dvoretsky's endgame books are aimed at advanced players, at least 1900 rating strength.

You'd better start from a generic endgame book, say Keres (old but very thorough, and with very few errors), and then get a copy of the first Shereshevsky endgame book (Endgame Strategy). IMHO this is hands down one of the 4-5 best chess books ever written, a true masterpiece of its kind.

One problem is that you are not reading the original post, I said that I was rated over 2000 Fide.  My rating here is low cause I just started.

KahZeeMin

"Tragicomedy in the Endgame" originally was a section of a previous book, "Endgame Tutorial" (I'm not sure about translation, original name is "Учебник ендшпиля" and I'm reading and failing to understand it right now). According to Dvoretsky annotation to the "Tragicomedy", he found this section really instructive and enlarged it to a separate book. This makes "Tragicomedy" a kind of "Endgame Tutorial vol.2". I don't know if there is a lot of sense to get volume 2 while missing volume 1.

MonsterTactics
pfren wrote:
MonsterTactics wrote:

One problem is that you are not reading the original post, I said that I was rated over 2000 Fide.  My rating here is low cause I just started.

Yes indeed, I am afraid that I can't predict what one will edit to his initial post.

That was no edit, it was in the intial post.

SmyslovFan

MonsterTactic, you never answered the basic questions:

What endgame books do you already have?

Why are you limiting the selection to books by Dvoretsky?

What are you looking for in an endgame book?

And yes, you did edit the original post. I don't remember whether you had your FIDE rating originally, but you did change quite a bit since I posted my first response.

hakim2005

2000 fide and 1600 at chess.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MonsterTactics
hakim2005 wrote:

2000 fide and 1600 at chess.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First dude I have played 2 correspodence games give me a few games to get it up there

MonsterTactics
SmyslovFan wrote:

MonsterTactic, you never answered the basic questions:

What endgame books do you already have?

Why are you limiting the selection to books by Dvoretsky?

What are you looking for in an endgame book?

And yes, you did edit the original post. I don't remember whether you had your FIDE rating originally, but you did change quite a bit since I posted my first response.

I didn't edit the post but w/e.  I just want to know out of anyone of you people who have read those two books which is more suited for a 2000 rated Fide player.  I have access to alot of the Keres and Shereshevsk's books through my club.