1 e4 d5 2 anything other than exd5

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I have tried kings gambit lots of times. in this I agree with Pfren, black can play simple moves and white has to find move after move the best move to get a draw.

Kings gambit is nowadays much more the one trick pony , when black plays not careful or has no idea what kings gambit is about white can the attack he hopes for.

I recently played a Few BDG games against the same player.
19, 20, 21 and 21 moves before mate :-)

Have to be honest that the last two games where 100% the same so the outcome was both mate in 21......
And the other 2 he played not very well, or better, he didn't have a clue what the weak points in BDG as black are. I was kind enough to show them :-)
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1. e4   d5

2. Nc3

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Oh, I agree. The Blackmar is the best thing since sliced bread. Let's bury Avrukh, who published the refutation (or one of the refutations, doesn't matter so much).

 Let's enjoy our illusion.

For the record, the (main) difference between the King's gambit and the Blackmar, is that the former is sound. So, the HopeChesser will naturally opt for the latter.

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Fine solution. White get very strong line d

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Hah... My - e5

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We had many 1 e4 d5. 2 e5 c5 games

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Even Nc3 is like a tiny capitulation.  For me e4 d5 exd5 is what you need to play.  You're playing white:  if black challenges you to prove your advantage...don't back down, prove it.

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bticler, you're right but this thread title is...

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Fiveofswords wrote:
pfren wrote:

Oh, I agree. The Blackmar is the best thing since sliced bread. Let's bury Avrukh, who published the refutation (or one of the refutations, doesn't matter so much).

 Let's enjoy our illusion.

For the record, the (main) difference between the King's gambit and the Blackmar, is that the former is sound. So, the HopeChesser will naturally opt for the latter.

you call it a refutation and i think you mean the solid c6 move. but are you sure you dont mean equality?

Unless my English are that horrible, "refutation" doesn't mean equality.

You can get the book if you wish from Quality Chess- not sure that the BDG chapter was written by Avrukh himself, but he did sign the book.

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Viulindar wrote:

What about  2.D4!!!!!  My friend (around 2000 rating )  is doing pretty well in 0ur chess leage with this " garbage" . It´s very psicological against 1.d4 d5 players  and a ugly surprise vs scandinavian players, they will not never expect this m0ve  because this gambit use t0 begin with 1.d4  . 

 

 

h0Wever,  if you ´re a 1.e4 player  you should not be afraid  to take the pawn in d5.   I understand that c0uld be annoying because after exd5 it seems like if y0u were playing a 1.d4 opening because of the new pawn structure , but t0 impr0ve your game y0u should try t0  play all of kind of positi0ns ,   and of course  the test m0ves  ( sth similar happen vs 1..Nf6 you must play 2.e5, very comittal m0ve (this pawn might be weak later but 2.e5 is only m0ve t0 keep an slight advantage  )  .

n0 fear no mercy, you play like a man.  2.exd5 or 2.d4



2) ...c6 Caro Kann

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rychessmaster1 wrote:

3 exd5 cxd5 4 c4 panos botonvik

Caro lines. You've got them in your territory not theirs.

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Garrus_Vakarian wrote:

No,exd5 is the only reasonable move.

The main alternatives(bad for white)are:

1) e5?! and black has ...Bf5 or ...c5 getting a very good version of the French Advance variation

2)Nc3?! black has ...d4 gaining space and attacking the knight,and here black has a slight advantage.

3)d4?! this is the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit...which is unsound but funny.Black is better here too by the way.

Like I said. If white adopts the Black-D Gamit, they could be faced with a Caro, like so.

1) d4 d5

2) e4 c6

3) Nc3 dxe4 (as best, transposing to old main line Caro)

4) f3 (they insist) e3 (give the pawn back, let the aggresor manouvre)

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Glyutri wrote:

bticler, you're right but this thread title is...

Doesn't matter one bit...if the thread title was "1 e4 e5 2 d4 Qg5 3 anything other than Bxg5..." my answer would still be Bxg5.  Same exact principle here, differing degree.

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rychessmaster1 wrote:

What would you play after 1 e4 d5 instead of 2 exd5

Why in the world wouldn't I take? I have my own prepared sideline on move 6 that puts black in tons of pressure. Tons of fun! 

Also I always feel like I have an edge after take. Takes advantage of the Consiquences of d5. Nc3 is sane. e5 might be fun, for an alternitive, but probably better for black

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tennyson gambit



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Tips for posting dubious gambits:

1) Assign at least one "!" to the dubious move (or moves).

2) Post a game where the opponent defends very poorly and loses before move 20.

3) In analysis, never, never, never show the best moves against the gambit.

4) Don't show the best moves against it.

5) DON'T SHOW THE BEST MOVES AGAINST IT.

6) Argue against anyone and everyone that it's a good opening choice.

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0110001101101000 wrote:

Tips for posting dubious gambits:

1) Assign at least one "!" to the dubious move (or moves).

2) Post a game where the opponent defends very poorly and loses before move 20.

3) In analysis, never, never, never show the best moves against the gambit.

4) Don't show the best moves against it.

5) DON'T SHOW THE BEST MOVES AGAINST IT.

6) Argue against anyone and everyone that it's a good opening choice.

lol

7) Show game examples of the gambit winning vs low level players.

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In bullet games ^