Hah... My - e5
1 e4 d5 2 anything other than exd5
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Even Nc3 is like a tiny capitulation. For me e4 d5 exd5 is what you need to play. You're playing white: if black challenges you to prove your advantage...don't back down, prove it.
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Viulindar wrote:
What about 2.D4!!!!! My friend (around 2000 rating ) is doing pretty well in 0ur chess leage with this " garbage" . It´s very psicological against 1.d4 d5 players and a ugly surprise vs scandinavian players, they will not never expect this m0ve because this gambit use t0 begin with 1.d4 .
h0Wever, if you ´re a 1.e4 player you should not be afraid to take the pawn in d5. I understand that c0uld be annoying because after exd5 it seems like if y0u were playing a 1.d4 opening because of the new pawn structure , but t0 impr0ve your game y0u should try t0 play all of kind of positi0ns , and of course the test m0ves ( sth similar happen vs 1..Nf6 you must play 2.e5, very comittal m0ve (this pawn might be weak later but 2.e5 is only m0ve t0 keep an slight advantage ) .
n0 fear no mercy, you play like a man. 2.exd5 or 2.d4
2) ...c6 Caro Kann
rychessmaster1 wrote:
3 exd5 cxd5 4 c4 panos botonvik
Caro lines. You've got them in your territory not theirs.
Garrus_Vakarian wrote:
No,exd5 is the only reasonable move.
The main alternatives(bad for white)are:
1) e5?! and black has ...Bf5 or ...c5 getting a very good version of the French Advance variation
2)Nc3?! black has ...d4 gaining space and attacking the knight,and here black has a slight advantage.
3)d4?! this is the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit...which is unsound but funny.Black is better here too by the way.
Like I said. If white adopts the Black-D Gamit, they could be faced with a Caro, like so.
1) d4 d5
2) e4 c6
3) Nc3 dxe4 (as best, transposing to old main line Caro)
4) f3 (they insist) e3 (give the pawn back, let the aggresor manouvre)
Glyutri wrote:
bticler, you're right but this thread title is...
Doesn't matter one bit...if the thread title was "1 e4 e5 2 d4 Qg5 3 anything other than Bxg5..." my answer would still be Bxg5. Same exact principle here, differing degree.
rychessmaster1 wrote:
What would you play after 1 e4 d5 instead of 2 exd5
Why in the world wouldn't I take? I have my own prepared sideline on move 6 that puts black in tons of pressure. Tons of fun!
Also I always feel like I have an edge after take. Takes advantage of the Consiquences of d5. Nc3 is sane. e5 might be fun, for an alternitive, but probably better for black
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Jan 31, 2016
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#34
Tips for posting dubious gambits:
1) Assign at least one "!" to the dubious move (or moves).
2) Post a game where the opponent defends very poorly and loses before move 20.
3) In analysis, never, never, never show the best moves against the gambit.
4) Don't show the best moves against it.
5) DON'T SHOW THE BEST MOVES AGAINST IT.
6) Argue against anyone and everyone that it's a good opening choice.
0110001101101000 wrote:
Tips for posting dubious gambits:
1) Assign at least one "!" to the dubious move (or moves).
2) Post a game where the opponent defends very poorly and loses before move 20.
3) In analysis, never, never, never show the best moves against the gambit.
4) Don't show the best moves against it.
5) DON'T SHOW THE BEST MOVES AGAINST IT.
6) Argue against anyone and everyone that it's a good opening choice.
lol
7) Show game examples of the gambit winning vs low level players.
i play 2. Nc3 all the time
vega,
And how many (including yourself) would find those moves behind the bord?
Even without improvement possible (and according to rule 4 I am not to tell it of course if there is :-))
it remains a very tricky game.
So far I have not lost with this line against 2000-2100 players and I loved the games.
And isn't that the essence of why we play? To enjoy the game?
I hate closed positions where I need to wait and wait until my opponent does make that tiny mistake, put a bit more pressure on the weak spots and , like a python, strangle my opponent in a slow death.
Besides, players with style will not like the Ziegler, will not find the line unless they are in a correspondence game and even then.
And how many (including yourself) would find those moves behind the bord?
Even without improvement possible (and according to rule 4 I am not to tell it of course if there is :-))
it remains a very tricky game.
So far I have not lost with this line against 2000-2100 players and I loved the games.
And isn't that the essence of why we play? To enjoy the game?
I hate closed positions where I need to wait and wait until my opponent does make that tiny mistake, put a bit more pressure on the weak spots and , like a python, strangle my opponent in a slow death.
Besides, players with style will not like the Ziegler, will not find the line unless they are in a correspondence game and even then.
Jan 31, 2016
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#39
I've been playing around with 2. Nc3 and it seems quite viable. If your oppenent pushes with d4 you can rearrange your knight to the kingside via e2. You can later try to break down the center with c3, or if your opponent plays poorly you may get a kingside attack taking advantage of both knights being on the kingside. This said I don't believe this line to pose any particular challenges to black. After 2. Nc3 black is already essentially equal. But it's playable and may get a closed game which a 1 e4 d5 player may not be wanting. You are locking the center and taking a space disadvantage (if your opponent takes the invitation for d4), so be prepared to have to fight.
Vega is quoting the main line from Avruhk
i am only a very average player but on my level the outcome of this game is certainly not predicable.
And, wasnt it you Fiveofswords who said a few days ago " when after move 1 the result is clear, why should I start the game in the first place ?"
I totally agree with that and , until there will be a very simple refutation to the BDG, where second best moves for black still gives black great play, I will keep playing a great attacking BDG game whenever I get the chance!
i am only a very average player but on my level the outcome of this game is certainly not predicable.
And, wasnt it you Fiveofswords who said a few days ago " when after move 1 the result is clear, why should I start the game in the first place ?"
I totally agree with that and , until there will be a very simple refutation to the BDG, where second best moves for black still gives black great play, I will keep playing a great attacking BDG game whenever I get the chance!
Fine solution. White get very strong line d