1. e4 vs 1. d4

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DrSpudnik wrote:
unterseegoat wrote:

Why can't it be a defense?

Because white goes on the attack on move 1 if he knows what he's doing.

Having been assaulted by d4, I can attest that it is not defensive unless White doesn't have the guts to play aggressively.

I personally believe E4 is the best move for White.

Play it. Play for the win!

pfren

Sure, sure. 1.d4 is defensive, Lionel Messi is a goalkeeper, and flying pigs are green. We trust you on all that.

nameno1had
pfren wrote:

Sure, sure. 1.d4 is defensive, Lionel Messi is a goalkeeper, and flying pigs are green. We trust you on all that.

lol

sammynouri

1.d4 because the most common lines are queens gambit (my favourite) and KID which I always play as black against 1.d4. And honestly I don't see how 1.d4 is boring, 1.e4 leads to the four knights opening or the Italian too often (or a similar position) which are both boring and extremely annoying.

DrSpudnik

It's not the first opening move that's boring, it's the player who makes it boring.

TitanCG

This thread is why opening theory can be a waste of time.

Sicilian_Dragon_Metr

"With 1.e4 i win!!!"-Bobby Fischer

RVISHWA

i am a fan of e4 because it is easy to develop all the pieces

AlCzervik

I don't care what others play. As long as they move quickly.

nameno1had

I am currently working on novelties for 1.c3 .... that has to be close to worst...

ajmeroski

It's not that bad, you can always go into something like Colle system with 1. c3. It doesn't have many advantages though.

sammynouri
lcmil wrote:

d4 = refuted.

Please explain how the second most played opening move is refuted?

DrSpudnik

LOLZ!

e4Najdorf

e4 is better than d4 because the KID is awesome,only retards hate it

Spiritbro77

50% of the time you're going to be playing black. So being familiar with e4, d4 and c4 openings as well as the occasional nf3 etc. is prudent.

Spiritbro77
e4Najdorf wrote:

e4 is better than d4 because the KID is awesome,only retards hate it

What does the Kings Indian defense have to do with it?

sammynouri
Spiritbro77 wrote:
e4Najdorf wrote:

e4 is better than d4 because the KID is awesome,only retards hate it

What does the Kings Indian defense have to do with it?

 

Its a good defense to d4, thats why its relevant. But keep in mind white has many options responding to 1...Nf6 Such as Nf3 with the idea of a Barry attack which I use as white as well as the colle system and countless other variations.

Spiritbro77

But against e4 you can use the Pirc which is basically the KID with different move order. :)

Scottrf

The Pirc is almost a pawn down after 3 moves, just ask the chess.com computer.

DeadlyKingV

Neither is better, it is a matter of styles

d4 --->It is for players quieter

e4 --->Is for more aggressive players