1.d4 repertoire advice.

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Courtney-P

Sometime next year I am going to start playing 1.d4.  I play at the club level as a hobby, not professionally but like to stick to sound openings primarily with a gambit line to shake things up every few games.

So my question to everyone is what do you suggest for a 1.d4 line and what 1.d4 gambits can you reccommend from OTB play?

Courtney-P

As an FYI, I currently play the Scotch, Alapin vs Sicilain, Advance or Tarrasch against the French, Panov vs Caro Kann and the 150 Attack against modern black defenses.

I play the Caro Kann, Tarrasch, Scandinavian and occasionally the Benko with the black peices..

beardogjones

Check out the Veresov as it often sneakily transposes to an e4 opening...

Oraoradeki

What about 2.Bg5?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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bronsteinitz

Good point by e (as always). I personally have had quite good results with queen gambit, but it is just a small part of your repertoire. Nimzo, Indian, Grunfeld, Slav,etc.. a good alternative is catalan I find.

Courtney-P
beardogjones wrote:

Check out the Veresov as it often sneakily transposes to an e4 opening...

What do you think of the endgames that arise from playing the Veresov?  It looks sharp and solid.

Courtney-P
Oraoradeki wrote:

What about 2.Bg5?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I thought about the Trompowsky, how do you like the lines when black recaptures with exNf6?

Courtney-P
Estragon wrote:

The logical center of the 1 d4 openings is the Queen's Gambit.  Both sides have chances to create interesting play.  You may not ultimately decide to play it as your main line from either side, but you will be a better player for being familiar with its ideas.

I enjoy playing against the Queens gambit, very logical and assertive.  It is both a gambit and and opening in one shiny wrapper, some may accept, some may decline... (Nodding) I like that.  I am well versed in the Tarrasch so it seems a very valid choice.

Courtney-P
Moses2792796 wrote:

Well the thing about buidling repertoire is that you have to be prepared for all of black's main options.  Same goes for 1. e4.  Assuming you're planning on playing 1. d4 2. c4, then you have to be prepared for the QGD (which includes the Slav and Semi-slav defences), the QGA, either the Nimzo or Queen's Indian depending on whether or not you go for 3. Nc3 or Nf3, the King's Indian and the Grunfeld just for starters.  Then of course there's less major stuff that's still relatively common, the Bogo-Indian and the Benko gambit come to mind.  Another one I seem to run into alot when I play d4 is the Albin countergambit. 

The one advantage with d4 in terms if learning it is that white often follows very similar schemes of development in different variations, whereas with 1. e4 the structures of all the major systems are completely different.

No kidding.  E4 and D4 defenses are so different.  there is almost a "theme" amongst many of the solid defenses to d4.

Courtney-P
pellik wrote:

QGD exchange is a fantastic opening to build a repertoire around. I can't recommend a good book however as it seems most of the repertoire books lately have focused on Nge2, which I think is a little tired now even at club level. 

Maybe shoot for this as your tabyia

 

The Queens gambit will most likely offer a healthy variety in OTB games, as it can be accepted or declined...

royalbishop
satxusa wrote:

Sometime next year I am going to start playing 1.d4.  I play at the club level as a hobby, not professionally but like to stick to sound openings primarily with a gambit line to shake things up every few games.

So my question to everyone is what do you suggest for a 1.d4 line and what 1.d4 gambits can you reccommend from OTB play?

As an FYI, I currently play the Scotch, Alapin vs Sicilain, Advance or Tarrasch against the French, Panov vs Caro Kann and the 150 Attack against modern black defenses.

I play the Caro Kann, Tarrasch, Scandinavian and occasionally the Benko with the black peices..

All i have to say is your going to spending several nights wonder what is going on if you play here. Practice it anywhere but here. They know way to much for a person just starting off playing d4 at a serious level. I have played in Vote Chess games and have seen some responses to it that was awesome. And the way it was used to respond you can not learn from a book alone.

SmyslovFan
pellik wrote:

QGD exchange is a fantastic opening to build a repertoire around. I can't recommend a good book however as it seems most of the repertoire books lately have focused on Nge2, which I think is a little tired now even at club level. 

 

Take a look at Schandorff's Playing the Queen's Gambit.

royalbishop
SmyslovFan wrote:
pellik wrote:

QGD exchange is a fantastic opening to build a repertoire around. I can't recommend a good book however as it seems most of the repertoire books lately have focused on Nge2, which I think is a little tired now even at club level. 

 

Take a look at Schandorff's Playing the Queen's Gambit.

Schandorff's  Who?

9thEagle
satxusa wrote:
beardogjones wrote:

Check out the Veresov as it often sneakily transposes to an e4 opening...

What do you think of the endgames that arise from playing the Veresov?  It looks sharp and solid.

A veresov endgame? That's practically an oxymoron!

I can't say I have enough engame finesse to know how a different opening will influence your endgame plans, but I do know that in the veresov, white goes for the kill. Either he suceeds, or loses too much material to recover . . . that's typically how my games go. I'm not sure I've ever gotten to an "endgame" in a real game that I started Veresov, where we both have the same material. Either I've sac'd a lot and made him give up more material to survive, or I've sac'd a lot and he defended better than I attacked. or I sac'd a lot, and then blundered and lost. That happens too.

coalescenet

hey saxtusa, I remember we became friends a year ago, you're rating and play must've improved a ton!!!

azziralc
pellik wrote:

QGD exchange is a fantastic opening to build a repertoire around. I can't recommend a good book however as it seems most of the repertoire books lately have focused on Nge2, which I think is a little tired now even at club level. 

Maybe shoot for this as your tabyia

 

This is known as the Carlsbad structure with both chances on either sides.

azziralc

Yes you have to be prepared on 1...Nf6 and 1...d5

bronsteinitz

best book : grandmaster repertoire d4 by boris avrukh, but catalan..

royalbishop
Moses2792796 wrote:

The Catalan is handy insofar as the system can be played against most of black's responses, it is one of the most positionally complex openings though, not sure how easy it is to play unless you are around master level, I've never really given it a serious try though.

The Catalan was never an opening I had really thought about till it suddenly became the main theoretical battleground of the Anand-Topalov WC match.

It works like a charm on this site with all these e4 players as they treat it like the Queens Gambit as that is most likely the only d4 opening they are famaliar with here.

royalbishop
Moses2792796 wrote:

Well the thing about buidling repertoire is that you have to be prepared for all of black's main options.  Same goes for 1. e4.  Assuming you're planning on playing 1. d4 2. c4, then you have to be prepared for the QGD (which includes the Slav and Semi-slav defences), the QGA, either the Nimzo or Queen's Indian depending on whether or not you go for 3. Nc3 or Nf3, the King's Indian and the Grunfeld just for starters.  Then of course there's less major stuff that's still relatively common, the Bogo-Indian and the Benko gambit come to mind.  Another one I seem to run into alot when I play d4 is the Albin countergambit. 

The one advantage with d4 in terms if learning it is that white often follows very similar schemes of development in different variations, whereas with 1. e4 the structures of all the major systems are completely different.

Aaah that is not true. I have come across some rare strategies in those variations that work. Followed the book method and found out my opponents followed the bood method what to do also. The Schemes Black can use are almost infinite. Not going into detail as they ready what i post and learn ways to attack it.

The time i had to spend and still spend studing them continues. When i change the line sometimes my opponent gets real confused. They not prepared because they only know general info on it. 2 years of research on it and still finding something new on the QGD.