1.e4 f6?!
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1.e4 f6?! 2.d4 g5?? 3.Qh5#
I think hat everybody learns that one wheter they like to or not!
it activates the king... :P
You guys are being silly. You know its a bad opening, yet you justify yourself with "But a strong player uses it" "But its surprising". This does not make it a good opening. It makes the strong player quirky, and it pleasently surprises me when my opponent plays such a weak move, but in your heart do you believe a move that exposes the king, and makes such little claim to the center, AND weakly supports the center (due to the f pawns defensive role) is really a good opening? Or do you support this opening because its unusual?
I think this is a playable line although very weakening. You could easily transpose into certain lines of the Nimzovich defense and depending on the move order, could transpose into the Unicorn Defense! The Unicorn Defense was explained in detail in a recent Unorthodox Opening Newsletter last year. Look those newsletters up.. they're great! I have to go eat.... or else I'd write out the variations.
Oh.. I forgot you can go into some 1...Nh6 lines as well. This defense is very effective. Krazy Kat defense I believe.
Yeah it's great...if you can depend on white making a sizeable mistake so black can get to an even position.
boogaloo, you spend an extra 2 tempo to put the knight in an inferior position and block in the bishop in that defense. WHY GOD WHY?
Furthermore, calling a move "Playable" is nothing special. Every white first move is playable. The vast majority of black second moves, excluding a few that give up a pawn is playable. I'm not very impressed by "playable" openings. Play what you in your heart think is best, not what you think is unusual and "playable"
Yeah,you would say that rich,thank for telling us why!
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You guys are being silly. You know its a bad opening, yet you justify yourself with "But a strong player uses it" "But its surprising". This does not make it a good opening. It makes the strong player quirky, and it pleasently surprises me when my opponent plays such a weak move, but in your heart do you believe a move that exposes the king, and makes such little claim to the center, AND weakly supports the center (due to the f pawns defensive role) is really a good opening? Or do you support this opening because its unusual?
Yo bro Call me silly if you like bro,for you don't know me our or know what's in my heart nor what I'm thinking,it's very easy to point the finger while beating around the bleeding bush,as for the center if you can not control it in that position,well that's your squirmy problem,maybe try having a decent look at it and maybe you can still hold your high held igo for obviosly you know SFA about this opening;
Because it looks so weak or that people would take you for a fool that that your subconcions refutes atomatically and clouds your thoughts,to the point the you blatently have a poor go at those that are willing to discuss and share there thoughts at this very little known opening.
Thank you very much for your very much for your fruitful comments,for apart from bithcing and barking,I did not get to learn rien(nothing).Take this and cheer up!
fzweb wrote:
Its sadist. Anyone who plays it is a total idiot or they are trying to insult you.
You seem to be an expert when it comes to that,lol!
Was there not enough opinion presented in this thread, from NM on down, and reason displayed, about 1...f6 to convince anyone that this move is seriously defective?
These forums can be so bizarre in just this way: Very bad advice being embraced
by novices--and repeated and defended-- despite it being clearly refuted by the more experienced players, sometimes the decades-long hobbyist. Not enough for some. They are just stubborn. I'd hope that the pursuit of the truth in chess was more valuable to them than whatever else is motivating them.
On other chess forums the beginners ask for advice and say thanks, or state a
proposition and when corrected they say thanks. They don't argue with the guys
who have spent years and decades on the game in serious study.
Yeah,Ruy Lopez was called all sorts of names and considered a fool for his Bb5 in his days,maybe you're right goldendog,ignorance is a bliss that only NM's & GM's and all the so called intellects seem to understand,lol,get a grip and wake up for as they say "history repeats it's self"!
Please show me an opening that is a 100% perfect,if it were so no one would play chess!
If you think you know better than a NM on this subject, good luck to you. Apparently I can't add anything that would help you.
Apparently you can't,thank you all the same,respect,
Gabriel!
@Thegab
I've never seen you justificating any of your arguments. You just keep arguing in a non-logical way. While narutofanforever,MBickley and goldendog have already made excellent points.
Well you seem to know me better than I do!
Oct 16, 2008
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#38
Don't feed the trolls guys...
About the opening: while the opening puts you at a definite disadvantage it could be fun to try against less experienced players if you know really well what to do.
Against better players this move is probably suicide unless you studied it thouroughly.
thegab03 wrote:
Well you seem to know me better than I do!
Again in your post you do not say anything about the opening you just respond into the only part of my post that you can. In the whole threag you've never made a strategical point about chess. you just keep arguing without giving us any analysis. I've seen many people like you, and I'm bored of trying to make you think. I'm sure that your next post will be a line or two which will sarcastically respond to only a phrase of my post and not to all my points,as you do not have a logical response to all of them and as you know I'm right but if you accept it, it will be like me and all the other players that disagree with your opinion, have beaten you.
Oct 16, 2008
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#40
1...f6 is a very playable Opening, with interesting opportunities for both sides!
Do not be so dubious for killing the flying birds!
I played it a few dozen times by black and got good plays and results...
First time I played against it, was 1977 City 5 minutes blitz Tournament, and it was shocking, when my partner moved all 8 pawns by black at the 6 line for first 8 moves, started 1...f6!? But I won that end!
My point is to not to be a dogmatic player, but creative one!
Yep,to true,one most consider the reason behind 1.........g5.followed by 2..........Kf7!For I don't think that a fool brought this to light!