1.e4 is over-rated

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MonkeyH

If f3 -> losing queen, everybody would be playing f3 on the first move. Just because he gave away his queen doesn't make f3 a good opening. It's a fallacy.

This opening is known as the Barnes opening, and because you don't play e4 or d4, it's very easy for black to equalise (so you give up your first move advantage for white). Read this  on the Barnes opening (1.f3)


Of the twenty possible first moves in chess, author and grandmaster Edmar Mednis argues that 1.f3 is the worst.[1] The move does exert influence over the central square e4, but the same or more ambitious goals can be achieved with almost any other first move. The move 1.f3 does not develop a piece, opens no lines for pieces, and actually hinders the development of White's king knight by denying it its most natural square f3. It also weakens White's kingside pawn structure, opens the e1–h4 diagonal against White's uncastled king, and opens the g1–a7 diagonal against White's potential kingside castling position."


Doesn't sound like a good opening to me :) 

MVlc

This topic is absolutely nonsense...

I do not even how an 1150 player can be talking about new opening theories and saying that 1.e4 isn't a good move when he does not even know the basics, also winning a game against an 1050 and hence telling that your opening is great is at least nonsence.

The rest of the answers are wasted in games that do not even make sense because you play the game exaclty how you would like it to be so that you can show that this 1.f3 opening is great.

thunder_tiger123

lol we just transposed into a yugoslav attack so I guess f3 is ok. but it gives black equality if he plays right.

thunder_tiger123

lol got my queen back, now I'm only down 1 pawn

thunder_tiger123

I think this ending is a draw, but I don't know

guguloi
thunder_tiger123 wrote:

I think this ending is a draw, but I don't know

you will lose anyway

thunder_tiger123

how? I'm pretty sure theoretically this ending is a draw

guguloi
thunder_tiger123 wrote:

how? I'm pretty sure theoretically this ending is a draw

I have the advantage

thunder_tiger123
Friendly-User wrote:
thunder_tiger123 wrote:

how? I'm pretty sure theoretically this ending is a draw

I have the advantage

I don't care if you have the advantage. you hav more winning chances, but this is a draw. (I think)

thunder_tiger123

I've resigned the first game after a miscalculation in the endgame. but now I'm winning in the second game, and I still have a score to settle Smile

guguloi

Proving 1.f3 is a good move



thunder_tiger123

1 game does not prove anything, lets play 10 games

right now the score

Friendly-User: 1

thunder_tiger123: 0

EDB123

A game against a 1000 rate player proves an opening?

guguloi
thunder_tiger123 wrote:

1 game does not prove anything, lets play 10 games

right now the score

Friendly-User: 1

thunder_tiger123: 0

you want to lose 10 games?
 

thunder_tiger123
EDB123 wrote:

A game against a 1000 rate player proves an opening?

lol I'm not 1000

although you have a point, playing against a low rated player and winning does not prove anything. if I beat a 500 using 1 e3 e5 2 Ke2, it doesn't mean anything.

mottsauce

lol you're 1297

thunder_tiger123
mottsauce wrote:

lol you're 1297

hey no judgement 

my otb is 1800

guitarzan
The_ii wrote:

Who needs openings anyway.

Yeah. Openings, schmopenings. They've got their chess ideas all backwards. You need to study endgames first if you're ever going to be any good at chess. Everybody knows that. Sheesh Tongue Out.

thunder_tiger123
guitarzan wrote:
The_ii wrote:

Who needs openings anyway.

Yeah. Openings, schmopenings. They've got their chess ideas all backwards. You need to study endgames first if you're ever going to be any good at chess. Everybody knows that. Sheesh .

openings matter too. if all you study are endgames, and you don't know any openings, you won't even make it to the endgame Tongue Out

Phantom_of_the_Opera

I have played f3 a few times...  It is not bad... but not good either...  I like d4 to defend your center pawn with the Q instead of a pawn...  But your idea is not bad...  I will try it in some unrated games.Wink