Hi everyone, posting from phone so I hope this works. Been trying to learn Evans Gambit recently and I keep getting this position. Chess.com says O-O is best, stockfish says Nxd4. Just from people's experience of playing this opening, which one is usually better? Nxd4 makes sense to me as I don't like the Knight on d4 and after the exchange we're doing OK and slightly better than Black. Thoughts?
4. Nxd4 or O-O
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That's the Blackburne Shilling, not the Evans gambit. More than a few threads in the forums...
https://www.chess.com/forum/search?keyword=Blackburne+Shilling
Ah, I should have clarified. I understand this was not Evans Gambit, I just stated that as reasoning for my opening moves. I have just seen Nd4 a lot instead of Bc5 so was just wondering what people thought about it.
Oh....Well if white doesn't know the trap and gets greedy, there's a world of hurt waiting for him. I think Nxd4 followed by castling is the usual plan though and black is just behind.
Pawned064 a écrit :
Nxd4 is better as O-O seems premature to do.
It ruins pawn structure after 5.Nxf3 6.gxf3
6.Qxf3 is a legal move I think...
Everything is good against Nd4, even Nxe5 but if u want to get an easy advantage :
pfren a écrit :
Pawned064 έγραψε:
Nxd4 is better as O-O seems premature to do.
It ruins pawn structure after 5.Nxf3 6.gxf3
Is white's Queen glued at d1 or something?
Both moves are good, but I prefer 4.Nxd4 exd4 5.0-0 with c2-c3 and grabbing the center to follow (#7). Black usually tries to keep the pawn at d4, but here 5...Bc5? isn't possible because of the mini-combo 6.Bxf7+ etc.
Exactly what I said, I just didn't mention the f7 trick, good to see I think like an IM
Aug 5, 2020
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#9
if you play castles black can simply take the white knight without making any major concessions.
Preusseagro a écrit :
I will shock some people now as i did with my oponents
This is interesting, let me see what stockfish says
It likes Ke7 instead of Ke6
You don't have to have stockfish, just go to chess.com/analysis
No, you can go to personal analysis and see the variants with evaluation, the premium member have access to guided analysis FMK
Aug 5, 2020
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#14
Looks like it transposes into the Traxler. It’s pretty much the line regardless if you take the bishop or not.
Not at all, this is completely different than the Traxler, in the Traxler, the bishop sac is with the black pieces, which matters except if White loses a tempo and the same position occurs. This is completely different
Also the opponent knight is not on f7 or g5, and not a lot is going on in terms of messiness of the board
Aug 5, 2020
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#17
It looks like a reversed Traxler, due to the sacrifice and knight check. It is completely different, I agree, but it has similar themes.
Well yes ok, @TC800 if this is what you meant
why waste time w/ 4. Nxd4 or 0-0 ?? just sac at f7 and go !
push that Kn offa d4 w/ c3 clearing ur Q for f3. Black's emperor is wearing no clothes !