A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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staples13

Im glad we have so many Alapin players joining this thread now. Feel free to post any of your brilliant Alapin wins with analysis here Mickynj

staples13
Here's a crushing win in a 3 minute no increment blitz game against 2. Nf6

 

HorribleTomato

what really determines winning is a 100% win rate (10 games) against someone 200 pts above you in at least 15|10

staples13

Attention all chess.com members we have ourselves a slight predicament. How should white combat this 2. e6 idea? If white plays the natural 3. d4 then black can draw by transposing it into the French Defense with 3. d5 and I’m sure I speak for all 1. e4 players when I say the last thing we want is more people playing the French Defense. 

I have shown you all the main ideas against 2. d5, 2. d6, and 2. Nc6, now I ask you to return the favor and help me refute 2. e6

sibi_90

I shall tell how i aim to play against 2.e6

followed by Bd3 looking for greek gift sacrifice. In this variation our d4 pawn can't be attacked by the usual c5 move which occurs in french defense advanced variation due to the absence of c pawns.

Meanwhile against 3....d5 

followed by placing our Bishop pair at b1-h7 and c1-h6 Diagonals, king side castling & Re1 and placing our knight pair at f3,g3 looking for a strong kingside attack. 

kindaspongey
kindaspongey wrote (~7 hours ago):

"In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force. ..." - staples13 (#1, August 27, 2018)

"... Black has 2 main move , 2...d5, ... and 2...Nf6 ..." - UzayAltay (#12, August 27, 2018)

"... I think you should back up your claim with more reasons why 2...d5 or 2...Nf6 might fail for Black. ..." - wiahwib (#32, August 27, 2018)

"... Yes d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. I, however, believe black is still lost even after these moves. I will post an analysis shortly." - staples13 (#38, August 27, 2018)

"... I’m gonna analyze nf6 ..." - staples13 (#73, August 29, 2018)

"... I will continue on to show why 2. e5 and 2. Nf6 loses over the next couple days as promised" - staples13 (#347, ~14 days ago)

staples13 wrote (~18 minutes ago):

Nf6 offers much stiffer resistance than d5. There are several games posted here with 2. Nf6 played I do believe, ...

Post numbers?

"Post #59. ..." - stapes13 (~7 hours ago)

Any post numbers of posts by you?

kindaspongey
staples13 wrote (~7 hours ago):

... It’s a shame there aren’t more Nf6 games on this thread. I will correct that travesty

Was it a travesty on August 29?

Was it a travesty ~15 days ago?

kindaspongey
"Here is Optimissed's crushing victory in the Alapin that he posted a link to. Notice how he played the move Na3! which I've been constantly stating is the key winning move in these 2. d5 lines. Here black can not handle white's rapid development and attack after Na3 …" - staples13 (~16 hours ago)
"8.Bf4 is pointless, and your much praised 9.Na3? a lemon. What is white supposed to do after 9...cxd4? (which is the very first thing Black should consider after an eventual Na3). 10.Nb5 Qf5! shows why 8.Bf4 wasn't such a good move." - IM pfren (~14 hours ago)
"I'm with pfren. In the French Advance it's a good rule of thumb that when White develops his Nb1, he can no longer bring it to c3, so this is the time to play cxd4. And this seems to apply in this position too." - mickynj (~13 hours ago)
"For sure white could and probably should have played Na3 earlier than he did but playing cxd4 doesn’t somehow magically stop the onslaught" - staples13 (~13 hours ago)
"Which onslaught are you dreaming of? Black has a clear advantage after 9...cxd4, dude. 10.Nb5 fails to Qf5!, 10.Nxd4 loses a pawn, while 10.cxd4 0-0 is a textbook example about how white should not treat his IQP: Two pieces (Na3, Bf4) stupidly placed." - IM pfren (~13 hours ago)
"Everyone always thinks that the knight is misplaced on a3 but its not. Its target square is usually b5 and that can be reached just as easily from a3 as c3" - staples13 (~11 hours ago)
mickynj wrote (~7 hours ago):

In the game given in #511, there is no onslaught coming against reasonable play by Black. 9...cxd4 seems to equalize, and in the game after 10...Qf5 or 10...Rad8, Black seems better. ...



Has staples13 proposed a specific tenth move for White after the hypothetical 9...cxd4 ?

kindaspongey

 

"Here's a crushing win in a 3 minute no increment blitz game against 2. Nf6" - staples13 (~9 hours ago)

Another game:

 

staples13

Yes. We need more 2. Nf6 games analyzed on this thread. I’ll add another one later today .

Thanks Sibi, come on guys keep the ideas pouring in for how we’ll combat 2. e6!

staples13

And to answer your question Kindaspongey 10. Nb5 and white is better

kindaspongey
kindaspongey wrote (~4 hours ago):
"Here is Optimissed's crushing victory in the Alapin that he posted a link to. Notice how he played the move Na3! which I've been constantly stating is the key winning move in these 2. d5 lines. Here black can not handle white's rapid development and attack after Na3 …" - staples13 (~16 hours ago)
"8.Bf4 is pointless, and your much praised 9.Na3? a lemon. What is white supposed to do after 9...cxd4? (which is the very first thing Black should consider after an eventual Na3). 10.Nb5 Qf5! shows why 8.Bf4 wasn't such a good move." - IM pfren (~14 hours ago)
"I'm with pfren. In the French Advance it's a good rule of thumb that when White develops his Nb1, he can no longer bring it to c3, so this is the time to play cxd4. And this seems to apply in this position too." - mickynj (~13 hours ago)
"For sure white could and probably should have played Na3 earlier than he did but playing cxd4 doesn’t somehow magically stop the onslaught" - staples13 (~13 hours ago)
"Which onslaught are you dreaming of? Black has a clear advantage after 9...cxd4, dude. 10.Nb5 fails to Qf5!, 10.Nxd4 loses a pawn, while 10.cxd4 0-0 is a textbook example about how white should not treat his IQP: Two pieces (Na3, Bf4) stupidly placed." - IM pfren (~13 hours ago)
"Everyone always thinks that the knight is misplaced on a3 but its not. Its target square is usually b5 and that can be reached just as easily from a3 as c3" - staples13 (~11 hours ago)
mickynj wrote (~7 hours ago):

In the game given in #511, there is no onslaught coming against reasonable play by Black. 9...cxd4 seems to equalize, and in the game after 10...Qf5 or 10...Rad8, Black seems better. ...

… Has staples13 proposed a specific tenth move for White after the hypothetical 9...cxd4 ?

"... 10. Nb5 and white is better" - staples13 (~23 minutes ago)

Remember this? --> "... 10.Nb5 fails to Qf5! ..." - IM pfren (~17 hours ago)

Feel any obligation to identify a White response to the hypothetical 9...cxd4 10 Nb5 Qf5 ?

 

kindaspongey
staples13 wrote:

Yes. We need more 2. Nf6 games analyzed on this thread. ...

Does the spirit of analysis move you to identify a winning improvement for White?

 

staples13

Kindaspongey I fail to see how Qf5 solves anything. Black is going to be down an exchange with a king that can’t castle, who’s stuck in the middle of the board with the center now open and white has greater development. Somehow I don’t think black is going to survive that even if he does manage to capture white’s trapped knight

staples13

Pfren, Unzickers winning advantage was gone long before move 20.  I’m assuming he isn’t an Alapin player becuase no c3 expert  would play such foolish opening moves. Obviously he was an incredible talent so he managed to come back from the grave to draw this game

staples13

In fact looking at Unzickers games he hardly ever played 2. c3 he played almost exclusively 2. Nf3 against the Sicilian, so it’s understandable why he didn’t know any Alapin theory and played so poorly in the opening

staples13

 

staples13

Thank you for demonstratin the point that I’ve been trying to make whenever we analyze these d5 lines Pfren which is that Na6! needs to be played and it needs to be played earlier than move 9. Otherwise white’s development isn’t rapid enough and black can catch up and draw. If white plays Na6 earlier his position would’ve been crushing, but since he waited he only comes out with a small advantage

staples13

You say 2. Na3 is as good as the Alapin?

Well that is a bold statement. Perhaps you can show us some of your brilliant victories in this 2. Na3 line then?

staples13

Let me know if you want to play in the next couple of hours rychessmaster