Sicilian is good opening and it's not refuted although there's a dubious trap.
Here's the raw annotation of the trap above:
1.e4 c5 2.c3 d5= 3.d4?! dxe4?! 4.d5 e6? 5.Bb5+ Bd7!? 6. dxe6 Bxb5?? 7. exf7+ Ke7 8. fxg8=N+! Rxg8?? 9. Bg5+ 1-0
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.
You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5
So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes
there is no such line in the french...
Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO:
After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.
You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5
So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes
there is no such line in the french...
Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO:
After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).
he didn't write this though, nobody plays c3 immediately in the french 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. c3
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.
You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5
So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes
there is no such line in the french...
Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3
After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).
… he didn't write this though, ...
Everyone can see what Tal125555 did write from what I reproduced. You, of course, can continue to dwell on that, or you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.
You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5
So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes
there is no such line in the french...
Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3
After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).
… he didn't write this though, ...
Everyone can see what Tal125555 did write from what I reproduced. You, of course, can continue to dwell on that, or you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
he clearly showed the moves 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. c3 in the board, so not really. what you wrote has nothing to do with what he showed. you also yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.
You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5
So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes
there is no such line in the french...
Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3
After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).
… he didn't write this though, ...
Everyone can see what Tal125555 did write from what I reproduced. You, of course, can continue to dwell on that, or you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... what you wrote has nothing to do with what he showed. you also yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.
You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c3 c5
So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes
there is no such line in the french...
Well, here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3
After that, it refers the reader to the C09 section (where one finds 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nd2 c5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Ngf3 Nc6).
… he didn't write this though, ...
Everyone can see what Tal125555 did write from what I reproduced. You, of course, can continue to dwell on that, or you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... what you wrote has nothing to do with what he showed. you also yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
why wont i consider it? i played Bb5
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
… here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3 ...
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... you ... yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
why wont i consider it? ....
How would I know? All I can do is call attention to the amount of consideration that your posts have given to 6...Bd6, after my posts, made ~1 day ago, ~16 hours ago, ~15 hours ago, and ~7 hours ago. Only you can explain the reason for your choice.
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
… here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3 ...
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... you ... yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
why wont i consider it? ....
How would I know? All I can do is call attention to the amount of consideration that your posts have given to 6...Bd6, after my posts, made ~1 day ago, ~16 hours ago, ~15 hours ago, and ~7 hours ago. Only, you can explain the reason for your choice.
i didn't have a choice to play 6...Bd6
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
… here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3 ...
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... you ... yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
why wont i consider it? ....
How would I know? All I can do is call attention to the amount of consideration that your posts have given to 6...Bd6, after my posts, made ~1 day ago, ~16 hours ago, ~15 hours ago, and ~7 hours ago. Only, you can explain the reason for your choice.
i didn't have a choice to play 6...Bd6
You have a choice to consider (in a post) whether or not you want to say that Black was "outplayed from the start" in a game that started with 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6.
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
… here is a line from a 2010 (Small) ECO: 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.O-O Ne7 9.Nbd2 O-O 10.Nb3 ...
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... you ... yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
why wont i consider it? ....
How would I know? All I can do is call attention to the amount of consideration that your posts have given to 6...Bd6, after my posts, made ~1 day ago, ~16 hours ago, ~15 hours ago, and ~7 hours ago. Only, you can explain the reason for your choice.
i didn't have a choice to play 6...Bd6
You have a choice to consider (in a post) whether or not you want to say that Black was "outplayed from the start" in a game that started with 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6.
what are you even saying? theres clearly no 6...Bd6 played in my win
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... you ... yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
… theres clearly no 6...Bd6 played in my win
If you are okay saying that Black was "outplayed from the start" in a game that began 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6, why would there be any problem saying that Black was also "outplayed" during the moves, 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 in another game?
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided along with a reference to the C09 section. I suppose another possibility is silence.
... you ... yourself quoted that 2...e6 is a good move against c3. i don't really care what french position came after 10 moves. i won anyways
So, you want to claim that White "outplayed" Black "from the start", you now acknowledge that "2...e6 is a good move", and you don't want to consider 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 ?
… theres clearly no 6...Bd6 played in my win
If you are okay saying that Black was "outplayed from the start" in a game that began 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6, why would there be any problem saying that Black was also "outplayed" during the moves, 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 in another game?
i didnt have another game with this line though, so i see no need to answer this
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided ... I suppose another possibility is silence.
… i didnt have another game with this line though, so i see no need to answer this
e4 c5 c3 e6 d4 d5 exd5 exd5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 a6 "outplayed from the start"
e4 c5 c3 e6 d4 d5 exd5 exd5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 Bd6 "[No comment.]"
"... You don't have to answer. ..." - Laura Branigan (1982)
… 1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 a6 ...
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
... you can consider the 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6 3 d4 d5 4 exd5 exd5 5 Nf3 Nc6 6 Bb5 Bd6 etc. line that the Small ECO provided ... I suppose another possibility is silence.
… i didnt have another game with this line though, so i see no need to answer this
e4 c5 c3 e6 d4 d5 exd5 exd5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 a6 "outplayed from the start"
e4 c5 c3 e6 d4 d5 exd5 exd5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 Bd6 "[No comment.]"
"... You don't have to answer. ..." - Laura Branigan (1982)
you are right though, i don't have to answer it. you can mention the ...Bd6 line as much as you like, the moves in the game or its result isn't going to change
Staples13, the weirdest &$*# in the world
Proof?
Any concrete lines?
Or words?
I'm a 2300 and OOONNNNLLLYYY play the Sicilian
That ain’t a line. Just a line of words.
LMAO you only refute the weak arguments but just start making stuff up whenever somebody comes with a viable argument.
outplayed from the start till the end, another sicilian player bites the dust
Seriously ? The sicilian is a perfectly viable opening and there is no refutation. The delayed alapin is not that bad, but if black knows a tiny bit of theory, he's ok.
You're showing games that start with e4 c5 c3 e6 ? => Seriously ? Black just transposes to a french
So this is not about the sicilian. Please not that in most of your games black doesn't lose because of the opening , but because of some other mistakes
there is no such line in the french...