A Bust to the Sicilian Defense
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Sep 1, 2021
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#1843
The time control was 3 min no increment as always. Mostly I just wanted to share the game because of the underpromotion at the end to a bishop
Sep 11, 2021
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#1844
Dude just stop k? If there was a bust to the Sicilian you would be a master by now if you know it. If you really want to prove that it has a bust don’t do it here because if beginners see this, their play is going to be messed up.
staples13 wrote:
Bro your opponent was rated like -100 this says nothing
staples13 wrote:
BestSell wrote:
The Alapin is fine for White. But it's mostly for White players who want to play against Black in a relatively equal game, with only a slight imbalance.
If Black knows what he's doing, then he equalizes against the Alapin pretty easily.
The Open, though, is a more aggressive try by White. It tends to maintain more pressure, creates more imbalances, and allows Black more opportunities to go wrong.
?? Stock fish routinely loses games to the Alapin
Wdym "routinely loses games to the Alapin"? Against who?
after e4 c5 Nh3!!! Blacks Sicilian is dead and left for dead!
Sep 12, 2021
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#1849
millerd66 wrote:
Smith Morra refutes Sicilian and much easier to learn
That sentence just proved to me that you're a beginner. Smith Morra doesn't "refute" the sicilian. If the Sicilian defense was refuted, then why do many grandmasters play it, and why does no one at the GM level play the Smith Morra?
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TommyPeebles_07 wrote:
millerd66 wrote:
Smith Morra refutes Sicilian and much easier to learn
That sentence just proved to me that you're a beginner. Smith Morra doesn't "refute" the sicilian. If the Sicilian defense was refuted, then why do many grandmasters play it, and why does no one at the GM level play the Smith Morra?
The Morra is just bad straight up.
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Oct 22, 2021
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#1853
Kira_is_coming wrote:
TommyPeebles_07 wrote:
millerd66 wrote:
Smith Morra refutes Sicilian and much easier to learn
That sentence just proved to me that you're a beginner. Smith Morra doesn't "refute" the sicilian. If the Sicilian defense was refuted, then why do many grandmasters play it, and why does no one at the GM level play the Smith Morra?
The Morra is just bad straight up.
The smith Morra is playable, but I agree that it’s bad because it gives black drawing chances
Oct 22, 2021
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#1854
staples13 wrote:
Kira_is_coming wrote:
TommyPeebles_07 wrote:
millerd66 wrote:
Smith Morra refutes Sicilian and much easier to learn
That sentence just proved to me that you're a beginner. Smith Morra doesn't "refute" the sicilian. If the Sicilian defense was refuted, then why do many grandmasters play it, and why does no one at the GM level play the Smith Morra?
The Morra is just bad straight up.
The smith Morra is playable, but I agree that it’s bad because it gives black drawing chances
Winning chances.
2)c3 Nf6 3)e5 Nd5 4)d4 cxd 5)cxd d6 6)Bc4 e6 7)Nf3 Nc6... Where is white's so called advantage, it's much easier to play with black in this position as white has overcommitted the central pawns and after pawn trade on d6, the best white can hope for is a draw, if there is no trade, the e5 pawn is always a pain for white! Alapin busted!
Oct 25, 2021
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#1856
staples13 wrote:
In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force.
The opening move of the Sicilian Defense violates just about every opening principle. It fails to develop a piece, fails to put a pawn in the center, and fails to open up a bishop for development. It allows white to immediately open up the center and to do so with greater development. The Sicilian Defense has nevertheless remained popular despite all of this for one reason and one reason only; in order for white to open up the center it comes at the cost of having to trade its D pawn for black's C pawn. This is why the ideal response to the Sicilian is the Alapin Variation 2. C3! It says to black no you can't have my center pawn. Now white is ahead in both development and control of the center , and black has absolutely no compensation.
The Alapin is sturdy, though drawish.
Logically, 2.c3 commits the same sins that you criticized 1...c5 for (it fails to develop a piece, fails to put a pawn in the center, fails to open up a bishop for development, and allows black to immediately open up the center, and to do so with greater development).
It also commits an even greater sin than 1...c5, in that 2.c3 robs white's queen knight of its ideal development square.
This is likely why the Alapin is the most drawish of all responses to the Sicilian. It doesn't really attempt to refute black's second move via direct, aggressive play. White, instead, goes for the slower, more positional route. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. (I'm quite a fan of slower, positional moves, myself.) But it's hardly a refutation.
In a way, white is acknowledging the Sicilian's strength, and concluding that he'll need additional reinforcements before attempting to open the center.
Black, meanwhile, can lash out with an immediate 2...d5, doing the very same move (queen pawn up 2 squares) that white seems fearful of playing, himself ...
Jul 6, 2022
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#1857
Is the Alapin a bust for the Sicilian? Well, maybe. but as with most things in life it really depends on who you ask. Regular players of this white counter-defense often swear by it's effectiveness, and I must confess that after playing the Alapin regularly for 3 years I am now firmly in this camp. The reason is clear. When I play 2.Nf3 (the main line), other players seem to know exactly what to do, but this is rarely true with the Alapin 
. Recall that the basic Alapin is simple, 1.e4 ...c5 2. c3!, but complexity can quickly follow on the heels of a spartan start and lead to some exciting (or even harrowing) middlegames, demanding a strong knowledge of both open and closed positions. Even a cursory analysis of specific Alapin lines can get quite involved, so I will skip that for the moment but add more details next week. Meanwhile, suffice it to say that the Alapin has become my mainstay against the Sicilian due to its flexibility, relative safety, and strong surprise value.
The Alapin is a bust to the Sicilian. So is the Rossolimo, the Grand Prix, the Closed, the Smith Morra, and many others including the main lines - as long as White outplays Black in whichever variation he/she chooses. As long as Black scores a significant number of wins when ratings are approximately equal, the Sicilian will continue to be played! The much higher rated usually wins regardless of the opening employed. The lower rated usually benefits by keeping play in simpler lines which are understood better. So, of course that means not taking on Black in a main line of the Sicilian if you don't understand them well, even if it means giving Black easy equality in a sideline. This should all be obvious.
Nice Post...
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"The Alapin moves a Pawn instead of a piece, preempts the best square that the b1-Knight had available, makes the c1-Bishop less valuable, and weakens d3 and the light squares generally."
++ All of that is true, but in the Ruy Lopez and in the Giuoco Piano white also prefers c3 over Nc3, i.e. prefers control over square d4 above naturally developing the knight.
Sveshnikov favored the Alapin.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1111109
Agreed