Hi!Since i was white in this game,i will try to give you some of my ideas here.First 5...Qe7 is very bad because 6.Nc3(with idea of Nd5 with Nc7 next).So,black queen have make another move,for example 6...Qc5 7.e3 d6 8.Nd5 and white is already much better.Second,black usual takes Knight on c3 with bishop after 6.Nc3 or,like in the game,after 7.Qd5(7...Bc3 8.bc and f6 next.Then,after 9.ef Nf6 10.Qd3 d6 11.g3...white is only little better.Good for black is also 4...g5 5.Bg3 Bg7(or 5...Nc6).In the game,after 8.h3 Nh6 my intention was simple 9.Qd3 with idea of Nd5 and taking f5 square from Nh6 knight.
A problem that i can't solve in Budapest gambit opening!
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Izko wrote:
you have to exchange your black bishop for white knight and then play Qa3 could be the move
Exactly right.
And f6 is also always an aggressive plan
"After eight moves I was already down...The problem is that until the sixth I followed the theory so i failed the only first move i would to find alone
...The most tragic thing is that even now I can not find the best answer..."
The problem is not that you follow the theory, or do not know the theory, but obviously you have difficulty understanding the position that arises from the opening. Without the intention of sounding negative, I would strongly advise you to play an opening that leads to a position that you feel more comfortable with and understand. Even better, forget about opening theory. Just focus on putting your pawns/pieces on squares with an idea why you are placing them there.
Lol, Jeroen, that does sound a bit negative...
Sometimes it just takes a little nudge or hint to gain an insight. No need to give up on the Budapest yet....
Thank you all, really! now it is more clear...@jeroen_n75 yep i am not comfortable with this opening structure; it is my first day spending in study this gambit and there are a lot of lines...anyway i think to understand a opening structure you should study theory too because in a blitz game you can't spend a lot of time in searching the best move...i usually play slav defence or just Englund in respond to 1.d4 but i would like to expand my opening repertoire. @Mojnesrat next time I will not implement your plans so easily! :D
@Izko after 8...Qa3 9.Rc1 is much better then 9.Qd2;)
As a Budapest player myself, I can tell you this: 5...Bc5 is a better try rather than Bb4+, putting pressure on f2. Whenever white plays Qd5, stubbornly trying to protect his pawn,instead of castling simply play d6, gambiting the pawn, followed by Be6. You've got serious compensation. I've played a ton of games in this variation and won most of them.
@DKNOT Bc5 is good in variation 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.de Ng4 4.Nf3 Bc5 5.e3, when white dark square bishop is still on c1.But when white play 4.Bf4,after Nc6 5.Nf3 Bc5 6.e3 d6 7.ed black is simply pawn down without any compensation.Just my opinion
..f6 is the best try in that position, and the move you missed. Black must simply sacrifice a pawn to keep playing. ..Qa3 is a terrible idea that will only give you any decent play if your opponent decides to play terribly for the next 2-3 moves. This is the line I consider best play against the Budapest and nearly refuting it.
we are in a similar position in a vote chess game right now in the Budapest Gambiteer's group. You should consider joining if you're interested in learning the opening. I joined because I wanted to know how best to handle the line as white, but I've come to see it as a good and interesting opening.
http://www.chess.com/groups/home/budapest-gambiteers
Mojnesrat wrote:
@DKNOT Bc5 is good in variation 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.de Ng4 4.Nf3 Bc5 5.e3, when white dark square bishop is still on c1.But when white play 4.Bf4,after Nc6 5.Nf3 Bc5 6.e3 d6 7.ed black is simply pawn down without any compensation.Just my opinion
You play d6 only after Qd5! Then I can assure you you get compensation. You castle very fast, you kick the queen with Be6 on the next move and your pieces have all scope, on good squares. You also open the e file and you have great piece play. I am not talking nonsense. I've played some games in this variation and usually my opponents get overwhelmed.
I recently lost a game in which I tried Budapest gambit. After eight moves I was already down...The problem is that until the sixth I followed the theory so i failed the only first move i would to find alone
...The most tragic thing is that even now I can not find the best answer...So I would like to know what do you think is the best answer to 7.Qd5 to which I responded, in the game, castling but after h3 I found myself in big trouble... Thanks in advance deposit to those who want to devote a few minutes ... Here is the diagram of the steps!