no it's callled the argentina attack and 150 attacck but when refering to e4 openings it's usually called the Yugoslav attack.
Adopting 150 openings info please
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OmarCayenne wrote:
I used to play that (with f3 thrown in).
why did you stop playing the opening and no its name is because only 1500-1800 considered it to be unbeatable. but it's as solid as the Pirc.
The "150" is a reference to the ECF rating of 150 (around 1850 FIDE), the term being coined by British GM's.
I never play e4 but some of my games transpose to the pirc with 1.d4/d6 2.e4 and I play the saimisch against the KID and because of the f3 pawn can't the attack be done I know alot of GM's consider it a system or it is a system.
150= 1800
140= 1700
130= 160 is that how ECF ratings go PrawneatsPrawn.
Conzipe wrote:
OmarCayenne wrote:
What the heck's the 150 Attack?
I heard that it actually got it's name because a lot of players around 1500 played it.
Anyway it's basically the "sac, sac, mate" formation against the modern/pirc.
I think that's 150 in the British ratings, which would be around 1700 FIDE or something. A Class B player's attack against the Pirc/ modern.
FIDE CONVERSION
FIDE = New ECF x 8 + 650
Therefore: 150 x 8 = 1200
1200 + 650 = 1850
Your conversion is old, the ECF recently underwent a re-evaluation of grades and how they convert.
Well but the name 150 attack is not new.
Atos wrote:
Well but the name 150 attack is not new.
No! of course not, you completely miss the point!
British GM's gave the opening a disparaging name because British players around 150 ECF always play it.
The 1850 rating is incidental.
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
Atos wrote:
Well but the name 150 attack is not new.
No! of course not, you completely miss the point!
British GM's gave the opening a disparaging name because British players around 150 ECF always play it.
The 1850 rating is incidental.
I realize that the name wasn't meant to be complimentary, what makes you think that I missed the point.
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atos,
read posts #16 and 17 in order.
Oh, I missed your earlier post when you said that 150 was 1850 FIDE, but at the time the name "150 attack" was coined it was around 1700. Anyway though even the British GMs had a certain reputation for playing crappy openings so it doesn't really matter much.
According to Richard Palliser, the 150-Attack got its name "... because White's poition is supposed to be so easy to play that a reasonable club player [rated 150] ... can obtain a good position with it against even a grandmaster!" Of course, in his next sentence he says that "It's probabilly not quite that good ..." Palliser's book Starting Out: d-pawn Attacks (2008) has a small section with a small number of examples. I suppose the 150 can be done opening with either 1. e4 or 1. d4, depending of course on what Black plays.
Hello I'm considering adopting the 150 attack or Argetina attack as some call it to replace my ususal 4 pawns attack against the KID. and replacing the Austrian attack with it against the Pirc and wanted to know the top books on the system general ideas most likely pawn structure etc... can someone help me ?