Simply 11...NxB 12.QxN g6 and white's attack is over. Why didn't you just play 11.BxN exB 12.Bh6? The queen sac made no sense......
An example of an opening/attack I've been considering.
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Yep, what he said.
Also, if he played 14... Re8 you shouldn't play 15 Bf6+ which ends up getting a lost endgame, but 15 Bh6+ which draws by perpetual check (15... Kh8 16 Bg7+).
That being said, this was a real game, and black made numerous mistakes. I Played with that in mind and did things you normally shouldn't. My real question is what you think of letting knight be killed, then retake with the pawn to open up the lane for the rook? Most players castle kingside so it's seems useful to me.
ppazoozu wrote: 14 .., Re8 allows to u draw by perpetual check which is better than taking his Q. 14 .., f6 returns the Q for a B and black wins with his extra N
I don't like draws. If you always forced a draw, you'd never win. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't care, I hate draws. Either way, you seem to be missing the point, this is merely an example of how it could play out. I'm wondering what everyone's opinion on opening that lane in that way for the rook is.
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4. gxf3 is better than exf3 if that's what you're asking, but I might still play 0-0 Kh1 Rg1 down the track depending on Black's development.
And the Queen sac isn't sound, theRonster456's found a better line but I get a feeling that a Rook sac after Bxf5 would work...
zrylam wrote:
4. gxf3 is better than exf3 if that's what you're asking, but I might still play 0-0 Kh1 Rg1 down the track depending on Black's development.
And the Queen sac isn't sound, theRonster456's found a better line but I get a feeling that a Rook sac after Bxf5 would work...
Thank you. I agree, but What if the e pawn was already advanced and the white bishop/queen is the other option? Would it be worth taking with the g pawn merely to open up that lane?
Sep 26, 2011
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Silient wrote:
zrylam wrote:
4. gxf3 is better than exf3 if that's what you're asking, but I might still play 0-0 Kh1 Rg1 down the track depending on Black's development.
And the Queen sac isn't sound, theRonster456's found a better line but I get a feeling that a Rook sac after Bxf5 would work...
Thank you. I agree, but What if the e pawn was already advanced and the white bishop/queen is the other option? Would it be worth taking with the g pawn merely to open up that lane?
Depends on pawn structure, I'd say yes as a general rule if you still have your dark-squared bishop and your pawn chain is going to stay on light-squares (for gxf3, eg. c4-d5-e4-f2-g2) as your bishop would still be a bad bishop on e2 or f3, and probably more useful on e2 anyway. And an extra f-pawn to challenge the center is almost always more useful than a g-pawn. To summarise, the main advantage of gxf3 is to better control the center, not to acquire a semi-open g-file.
Hope that helps.
zrylam wrote:
Silient wrote:
zrylam wrote:
4. gxf3 is better than exf3 if that's what you're asking, but I might still play 0-0 Kh1 Rg1 down the track depending on Black's development.
And the Queen sac isn't sound, theRonster456's found a better line but I get a feeling that a Rook sac after Bxf5 would work...
Thank you. I agree, but What if the e pawn was already advanced and the white bishop/queen is the other option? Would it be worth taking with the g pawn merely to open up that lane?
Depends on pawn structure, I'd say yes as a general rule if you still have your dark-squared bishop and your pawn chain is going to stay on light-squares (for gxf3, eg. c4-d5-e4-f2-g2) as your bishop would still be a bad bishop on e2 or f3, and probably more useful on e2 anyway. And an extra f-pawn to challenge the center is almost always more useful than a g-pawn. To summarise, the main advantage of gxf3 is to better control the center, not to acquire a semi-open g-file.
Hope that helps.
It does, thank you very much! :)
Silient wrote:
I don't like draws. If you always forced a draw, you'd never win. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't care, I hate draws.
Yes, you are wrong. And you should care, if you really are interested in improving at this game. After all, you also don't lose if you draw. And a recourse to simple arithmetic--1/2 vs 0--should assure you of the soundness of that argument.
5. Be3? is questionable, since it blocks in the e-pawn. I would have played 5. e4 to get a firm grip on the center. If black responds with 5... dxe4, 6. fxe4 straightens out your pawn structure and takes nearly complete control of the center. If not, you might even consider e5 at some point.
Interesting, fresh idea. Though it's obviously known with reversed colours. I suppose black could follow you and castle queenside, but let's assume for the sake of it, it's still playable to go kingside. Yes, 5.Be3 looks clogged. 5...a6 is costing a tempo, and 9.Bh3 is another clog. Suppose black comes with f5 and not Nf5, what he should do. Then the centre is well guarded and also your only battering ram, the h-pawn, is blocked by the bishop! On the queenside, black could have tried c5 somehow, either with b6 or Nd7. That puts some real pressure on your centre and it turns out Be3 is not the defender you wanted. On move 10 in the actual game you have Bxf5 and Bh6 winning the exchange, you should be happy with that. The queen sac was not good, maybe even 14...f6 could still leave black a piece up.
This is an example of an attack/opening based on a common black assault on the kingside knight. This is an actual game I have played. I look forward to your thoughts.