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Best defences against the fried liver attack
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Dec 10, 2012
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#3
I guess this is the fried liver move you're speaking of. Not sure of the name of defense.
Once again to clear up the nomenclature.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 is the Italian game
3...Nf6 is the Two Knights Defence
4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5?! 6.Nxf7!? is the Fried Liver Attack
6.d4! is the Lolli Attack
If you want to avoid the attack, avoid playing the inferior defence of 5...Nxd5, and instead continue 5...Na5 in the Polerio Variation. It is objectively equal and allows for dynamic play. There is no sense in going down an inferior line (and an otb nightmare I may add) just to prove a point.
@King_of_pawns - That is actually a variation of the Philidor reached via 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 h6. White is better off not playing 3.Bc4 and just going with 3.d4 which should result in a very good position as white.
Dec 10, 2012
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#5
The Traxler Counterattack, a hyper-aggressive opening. Of course, there is much more to know and it doesn't always win.
Theory has shown that white can achieve a clear advantage against the Ulvested Variation. Quite frankly, the only way to play now (for the win) is the Polerio.
Lol yeah I practically live in these variations so it becomes second nature.
The Ulvested is the line you posted (5...b5). The Polerio is 5...Na5.
I am really good at remember facts, especially opening names lol. Sometimes the names I remember though can become outdated since I read about them in old books, but find out later that their name has changed due to someone else contributing to the opening.
BorgQueen wrote:
I'm ok at remembering lines, but the names of variations almost always elude me.
Nice hat....lol.
Here are 4 -- Sicilian, French, Caro Kann, Petroff.
Lot's more are available. All you need do is decline to play 1)...e5.
Simple. 
Dec 11, 2012
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#12
@coneheadzombie Is that an example of a Traxler win? I would prefer to be in black's shoes there.
coneheadzombie wrote:
??? this topic is about the fried liver
Once again, 4.Ng5 is not the Fried Liver Attack. I do not want a favorite move of mine to be sullied by the dubious reputation of the Fried Liver Attack.
That is the Berliner Variation (also considered dubious) from what I remember. But there is no reason to ever enter the variation when white has the clearly better 8.cxd4 in the main line. Also 8.Ne4 Ne6 is much better when black has at least an equal position.
BorgQueen wrote:
zborg, that's 5 ya n00b! lol
More like 50 opening systems are available. What of it?
The Fried Liver is an opening for grab-ass children, and their one-line retorts, as you so amply demonstrate, @QueenBee.
BorgQueen wrote:
zborg, that's 5 ya n00b! lol
Only 4, if you only count the ones that avoid 1...e5.
Franken_Berry wrote:
Previous post is apparently the Two Knights defence, Fritz, Gruber variation. I think it's an interesting offbeat try.
Interesting? Not quite. Black is dead lost.
And the real problem is not 8.Ne4 (Black is OK after 8...Ne6!) but rather 8.cd4, when Black is much worse.
You all know how it goes, and how annoying it is but how is the best way to stop it and gain a good postion?
Please show board examples, as well as the name of the defence, gambit, etc.
Txns, Im an amature and I would like to learn more.