Can somebody suggest a tricky opening repertoire?

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KingSideInvasion wrote:

The two exclams were to symbolize that that is the key move. Qc2 is like one of the most common moves and Bd3 makes sense because it pressures the knight... Trust me these traps are common. There are more, too! But my question was, do you know anything like this opening that's tricky?

that didn't seem very tricky, but oh well, i don't play 1.d4

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It was a rapid game it makes sense to take your opponent out of the book. Also, the only reason he won is because he pretty much transposed into a london-ish position.

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I fail to see how this looks like a London

 

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It has key aspects of the London. I said it was London-Ish for a reason. It's kinda reversed.

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Can you please tell me. DO you have any other suggestions other than the Hungarian and the Anderssen?

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Hungarian?! Whats that. I said 1...g6, aka the Modern, or the Robastacuidhosaljhewdhkjgh,3ekwj

And its not like a London at all. 

Yes, suggestions: Evan's Gambit, Benko Gambit, Nimzo Larsen, Modern, Alekhine's. Basically my whole repertoire (without a3)

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Oh ok, I thought you said 1.g3... 1.g6 makes a little more sense...

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And your other suggestions are great thanks!

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yea, g6 is good imo. g3 is just no, unless you're a reti player or something

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KingSideInvasion wrote:

And your other suggestions are great thanks!

+1 lmk if you need any example games / advice on how to play them

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1_a31-0 wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:

And your other suggestions are great thanks!

+1 lmk if you need any example games / advice on how to play them

Youtube's there for a reason! Benko Gambit for sure one I'll try out. I'll look into the others.

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KingSideInvasion wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:
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most opening with traps DO rely on those chances

For example, your cambridge springs thing. I would gladly take that position as White, since Black hasn't followed opening principles, and White has "normal" development with Nd2*, Be2, O-O, more space, and better pieces. So, where exactly is Black's compensation?

*Nd2 to break the pin, because after Bb4, there might be a "trap"?? Idk, the trap line you posted doesn't make any sense, but the trap is probably based on a pin of some sort.

I just love the pressure black gets on white with Bb5, Ne4, etc. So tricky and played by the best of the best (Garry Kasparov, etc.)

uhhh...Nd2 breaks the pin. 

Kasparov played a lot of things. Magnus plays the Bnogcloud, does that mean I should play the Bongcloud too? I'm not trying to discourage you from playing this opening (if you like it), but you shouldn't play an opening just because famous players do.

GARRY KASPAROV PLAYED THIS REPEATEDLY IN IMPORTANT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES. NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD PLAY A3 IN A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH. THE CAMBRIDGE SPRINGS IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED REPLIES TO D4 AND SUITS MY STYLE PERFECTLY. THE POINT OF THIS POST IS NOT TO DISCUSS WHETHER THE CAMBRIDGE SPRINGS IS GOOD OR NOT.

Your 1400. He is 2800. Don't compare the two.

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anything thats not the st louis chess club is not a reliable youtube channel.

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ChessieSystem101 wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:

most opening with traps DO rely on those chances

For example, your cambridge springs thing. I would gladly take that position as White, since Black hasn't followed opening principles, and White has "normal" development with Nd2*, Be2, O-O, more space, and better pieces. So, where exactly is Black's compensation?

*Nd2 to break the pin, because after Bb4, there might be a "trap"?? Idk, the trap line you posted doesn't make any sense, but the trap is probably based on a pin of some sort.

I just love the pressure black gets on white with Bb5, Ne4, etc. So tricky and played by the best of the best (Garry Kasparov, etc.)

uhhh...Nd2 breaks the pin. 

Kasparov played a lot of things. Magnus plays the Bnogcloud, does that mean I should play the Bongcloud too? I'm not trying to discourage you from playing this opening (if you like it), but you shouldn't play an opening just because famous players do.

GARRY KASPAROV PLAYED THIS REPEATEDLY IN IMPORTANT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES. NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD PLAY A3 IN A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH. THE CAMBRIDGE SPRINGS IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED REPLIES TO D4 AND SUITS MY STYLE PERFECTLY. THE POINT OF THIS POST IS NOT TO DISCUSS WHETHER THE CAMBRIDGE SPRINGS IS GOOD OR NOT.

Your 1400. He is 2800. Don't compare the two.

Jeez. I bet you play some opening that has been played in a world championship match. Stop trying to argue that that's a bad thing.

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1_a31-0 wrote:

anything thats not the st louis chess club is not a reliable youtube channel.

Well, I disagree, but still.

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KingSideInvasion wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:

anything thats not the st louis chess club is not a reliable youtube channel.

Well, I disagree, but still.

any recommendations? I need some, lol happy.png

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KingSideInvasion wrote:
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:

most opening with traps DO rely on those chances

For example, your cambridge springs thing. I would gladly take that position as White, since Black hasn't followed opening principles, and White has "normal" development with Nd2*, Be2, O-O, more space, and better pieces. So, where exactly is Black's compensation?

*Nd2 to break the pin, because after Bb4, there might be a "trap"?? Idk, the trap line you posted doesn't make any sense, but the trap is probably based on a pin of some sort.

I just love the pressure black gets on white with Bb5, Ne4, etc. So tricky and played by the best of the best (Garry Kasparov, etc.)

uhhh...Nd2 breaks the pin. 

Kasparov played a lot of things. Magnus plays the Bnogcloud, does that mean I should play the Bongcloud too? I'm not trying to discourage you from playing this opening (if you like it), but you shouldn't play an opening just because famous players do.

GARRY KASPAROV PLAYED THIS REPEATEDLY IN IMPORTANT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES. NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD PLAY A3 IN A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH. THE CAMBRIDGE SPRINGS IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED REPLIES TO D4 AND SUITS MY STYLE PERFECTLY. THE POINT OF THIS POST IS NOT TO DISCUSS WHETHER THE CAMBRIDGE SPRINGS IS GOOD OR NOT.

Your 1400. He is 2800. Don't compare the two.

Jeez. I bet you play some opening that has been played in a world championship match. Stop trying to argue that that's a bad thing.

lol, chessie just got on this forum now xD

also #quotechains

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byp??

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Quangk2 wrote:

1.Na3 is good if they dont what they doing,pretty much the game plan is to control the c4 square to eventually play Nc4 to pressure e5 pawn with Knight on c3.

and if black plays like c5-d5-e6, and there is no e5 pawn?

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yeah, ik, but really?!