Chess openings for beginners/ kids

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DoctorStrange

Italian/Guioco piano is the best.

The_illusionist1997

Italian

SmyslovFan

Glad to hear there's one single best opening to teach kids. That means all others are suboptimal. Guess we don't need to spend time analysing those.

Diakonia

And make sure its agressively tactical, or at least tactially agressive!

yomama_69
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

What is wrong with people on this forum!


You can't teach a little kid the Ruy Lopez and Kings Gambit.

Whats the matter with you people.

Even Grand Masters struggle in those lines.

You want a little kid to play them?

Weirdos!

I bet many here have no clue how to even play them.

An you expect a little kid too?

What are you people smoking?

 

You start off with simple lines!

 

The Italian Game

or

The Kings Indian Attack

 

You reach the same positions over and over again.

The repetition helps!

 

Every strong player started off walking before running.

Bobby Fischer played the Kings Indian Attack and the Italian Game.

Even today's strong chess players who are young play the Italian Game.

what about four knights, first opening i ever played

X_PLAYER_J_X

@yomama_69

I am glad you mentioned the 4 knights.

Alot of people forget to mention it.

Yeah it is very good for beginners as well!


Its better to start them off with the simple stuff than slowly move up.

sohum3894

Queen's Gambit is safe to play and effective as well.

SuirenBoid

as black vs e4... e5 and vs d4...d5 QGD, As white 1.e4 with Italian Game/Two Knights, Open Sicilian, Advance Caro Kann, Advance French. Most importantly though, learn how the game works, tactics, strategy, how to exploit various weaknesses, imbalances and basic endgames, otherwise the openings will simply be a bunch of moves that are poorly understood. The basic repertoire I mentioned would I believe be the most principled rep for a new player, you can vary later. 

Dalek
jengaias wrote:

Your son is 750 and you teach him openings.You taught him Vienna opening and you want to teach him more openings.

Wow!!! 

You want to do something good for him?

Stop teaching him and find him a good teacher.

Teaching a kid openings is the biggest mistake one can do.

 

I agree with Jengaias.  More important than openings for beginners are the ideas behind the first moves, not the openings.  Try to teach him the reason of the first movements, center control, development, etc.  Do some tactics and endgame training with him also.

Dalek
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pfren
1stKnight619 wrote:

I would recommend the King's Indian Attack for white...it's versatile..all your pieces are defending each other. it's universal against pretty much anything black throws at it so you can change the move order however you like. And it's easy to learn....1.Nf3; 2.g3; 3.Bg2; 4.0-0; 5.d3; 6.Nbd2; 7.e4 Consider it!!

Teaching a KID the KIA is the best way by far to make him/her give up on chess after a couple of weeks.

kindaspongey

"... For players with very limited experience, I recommend using openings in which the play can be clarified at an early stage, often with a degree of simplification. To accomplish this safely will take a little study, because you will have to get used to playing wiith open lines for both sides' pieces, but you can't eliminate risk entirely in the opening anyway. ... teachers all over the world suggest that inexperienced players begin with 1 e4. ... You will undoubtedly see the reply 1 ... e5 most often when playing at or near a beginner's level, ... After 2 Nf3, 2 ... Nc6 will occur in the bulk of your games. ... I recommend taking up the classical and instructive move 3 Bc4 at an early stage. Then, against 3 ... Bc5, it's thematic to try to establish the ideal centre by 4 c3 and 5 d4; after that, things can get complicated enough that you need to take a look at some theory and learn the basics; ... Of course, you can also play 1 d4 ... A solid and more-or-less universal set-up is 2 Nf3 and 3 Bf4, followed in most cases by 4 e3, 5 Be2 and 6 0-0. I'd rather see my students fight their way through open positions instead; however, if you're not getting out of the opening alive after 1 e4, this method of playing 1 d4 deserves consideration. ... a commonly suggested 'easy' repertoire for White with 1 Nf3 and the King's indian Attack ... doesn't lead to an open game or one with a clear plan for White. Furthermore, it encourages mechanical play. Similarly, teachers sometimes recommend the Colle System ..., which can also be played too automatically, and usually doesn't lead to an open position. For true beginners, the King's Indian Attack and Colle System have the benefit of offering a safe position that nearly guarantees passage to some kind of playable middlegame; they may be a reasonable alternative if other openings are too intimidating. But having gained even a small amount of experience, you really should switch to more open and less automatic play." - IM John Watson in a section of his 2010 book, Mastering the Chess Openings, Volume 4

kindaspongey

"... Beginning players will always get wiped out by more experienced opponents. ... the Barcza Opening ... [is one of the openings that] I recommend. ... White's four opening moves, 1. Nf3, 2. g3, 3. Bg2, and 4. 0-0, create the Barcza Opening. ... if White plays for d2-d3 and e2-e4, the opening becomes a King's Indian Attack (KIA). The KIA became my favorite because the ideas are quite easy to grasp. ... Certainly, by adopting the Barcza Opening as White, you will cut out a number of losses that you would experience by playing complicated classical openings. Your need to know the theoretical lines is reduced ..." - GM Yasser Seirawan (1998)

kindaspongey

ex_submariner wrote (~5 months ago):

"If you can find a copy of 'How to Open a Chess Game', buy it!  Published in 1974 there are seven chapters, each by a leading grandmaster of the day ... The chapter 'Developing an Opening Repertoire' by Lajos Portisch alone is worth the price of the book. ..."

"... For white kingside openings Portisch recommended the Ruy Lopez exchange variation. ... For closed games as white he said play the King's Indian Attack and the English Opening.  Also the QGD. ..."

kindaspongey

GM John Emms wrote an introduction to basic opening principles, Discovering Chess Openings (2006).

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

"Throughout the book Emms uses excellently chosen examples to expand the readers understanding of both openings and chess in general. Thus equipped the student can carry this knowledge forward to study individual openings and build an opening repertoire.

Books of this kind in relation to openings are quite rare – and good ones even rarer. For beginning players, this book will offer an opportunity to start out on the right foot and really get a feel for what is happening on the board." - FM Carsten Hansen (2006)

slowdeath22

Definetely Ruy Lopez and Sicilian Najdorf.

SuirenBoid

Despite Dvoretskys love for the KIA I might suggest it could hinder growth playing such similar positions and plans. I think without a grounding in classic games and the earliest openings it would be hard to understand

Dalek
pfren wrote:
1stKnight619 wrote:

I would recommend the King's Indian Attack for white...it's versatile..all your pieces are defending each other. it's universal against pretty much anything black throws at it so you can change the move order however you like. And it's easy to learn....1.Nf3; 2.g3; 3.Bg2; 4.0-0; 5.d3; 6.Nbd2; 7.e4 Consider it!!

Teaching a KID the KIA is the best way by far to make him/her give up on chess after a couple of weeks.

 

When I was beginning I bought books on Ruy Lopez, Alekhine and Caro-Kann.  I almost gave up chess.  Those books were forgotten on the shelf, and my chess didn't improve.  I missed the point at that time.

kindaspongey
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