Come up with a (serious) gambit!

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choobler
LorddVandheer wrote:
choobler yazdı:

Make up a gambit! Also, include the idea/ some lines of the gambit. It can be played before, it just needs to not be already officially recognized as an opening. It has to be serious, no joke gambits are allowed. It is okay if it is a little dubious, as long as it isn’t awful. For example:

Italian Game: Anti-Fried Liver, Improved Goring, Water Variation

This is a gambit I came up with to use against the Anti Fried Liver. It targets the weak f7 square, and also opens up and activates your pieces, with the cost of only 1 or 2 pawns.

Wasn't this your gambit for anti fried liver? I remember a thread.

Yeah it was

VaItroa
Does this work?
I obviously don't play this but it may work in low elo where people are playing 2. Qf3 anyway
MarioParty4
stgggggggggg wrote:
Does this work?
I obviously don't play this but it may work in low elo where people are playing 2. Qf3 anyway
Sack_o_Potatoes
 MarioParty4 wrote:
stgggggggggg wrote:
Does this work?
I obviously don't play this but it may work in low elo where people are playing 2. Qf3 anyway
blueemu

Half a century ago, I used to play this gambit:

Start as a 1. b4 opening, but transpose into a double-King's-Pawn opening where Black has played f7-f6.
Cobra2721
LochaSog

Maybe 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.e4 N×e4 3.Nc3 N×c3 4.d×c3 this is the moon gambit. 🌚🌚🌚🌚

choobler
LochaSog wrote:

Maybe 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.e4 N×e4 3.Nc3 N×c3 4.d×c3 this is the moon gambit. 🌚🌚🌚🌚

Is that basically a Stafford gambit for white? It looks quite interesting though.

Poweranony
#30
It’s like the stafford but worse because black can play e6.
A better reversed stafford is the boden-kieseritzky gambit, often reached by:
1. E4 e5 2. Bc4 nf6 3. Nf3 nxe4 4. Nc3
You can also get it via petrov defense and stanley vienna move order
choobler

@Poweranony Yeah, it is worse. It is like a gambit I saw posted in a different forum, which the person called it the Lundskog Gambit, which is basically a Danish, but Black can play e6.

(e4 c5 d4 exd4 c3 dxc3 Bc4 cxb2 Bxb2)

crunchwald
Tartakower Gambit (gives up a pawn for an active queen)
Tartakower Gambit Accepted
If White tries to grab control of the center with e4 after a few more moves, then Black can actually put enough pressure and play aggressively enough that their development is superior.
In the previous example, there isn't any way for White to defend their d4-pawn, so not only does Black have superior development, but also will recapture the pawn. Only a few mistakes on White's part leads to a bad position that's hard to defend.
choobler

@Crunchwald_The_Fourth

After 8.. Qd6, White can just move the knight back to c3, and White has:

-an extra pawn

-more central control

-more development

And Black has:

-a queen moved 2 squares up for some reason which blocks their dark-squared bishop

crunchwald
choobler wrote:

@Crunchwald_The_Fourth

After 8.. Qd6, White can just move the knight back to c3, and White has:

-an extra pawn

-more central control

-more development

And Black has:

-a queen moved 2 squares up for some reason which blocks their dark-squared bishop

I understand that the gambit is dubious and that Nc3 is the best move, but the entire point of it is that White only has to make one or two mistakes and their advantage is gone.

crunchwald
d4iscrazy wrote:
Crunchwald_The_Fourth wrote:
choobler wrote:

@Crunchwald_The_Fourth

After 8.. Qd6, White can just move the knight back to c3, and White has:

-an extra pawn

-more central control

-more development

And Black has:

-a queen moved 2 squares up for some reason which blocks their dark-squared bishop

I understand that the gambit is dubious and that Nc3 is the best move, but the entire point of it is that White only has to make one or two mistakes and their advantage is gone.

that's not very good reasoning to play a opening. black makes one mistake and the arbiter might as well end the match

This is supposed to be a beginner opening. I would never play this except in maybe a bullet game.

MarioParty4

This gambit line of the Scandinavian Defense is unlabeled, how good is it?

ethanzzhang
crunchwald

Reti Gambit: Tomato-Levitsky Gambit

There are a lot of different traps using this gambit, and even if they don't work, rapid development and center control still compensate for the lost pawn.

(Winning the queen in 9 moves)
(Developing rapidly)
(Winning back the pawn w/rapid development)
 
(Winning back the pawn while your opponent doesn't have any good development)
 
(Checkmate in 11)
(Winning the rook in 11 moves)
(Winning the rook in 7 moves)

(Winning the rook in 8 moves)

(Another checkmate in 11)

(Another checkmate in 11, but this time with a queen sacrifice)

crunchwald

Pirc Defense: Rusakov Gambit

(It's kind of not a gambit because you can't take the pawn, as shown in this example)

As shown in the above example, in the ideal scenario, it would transpose into a Delayed Alapin Sicilian.

ChessDude009

Anti-fried liver is garbage, no respectable player plays it.

RakeshMahanti
LochaSog wrote:

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 g5: alekhine defence ; four pawns attack; dinosaur gambit

That's called the Cambridge gambit and it has been around for a few decades