Correct aproach to the openings

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JairoPCJr

It is easy to find the best move list for any opening.But, for as, begginers-intermediate players it is difficult to catch the OBJECTIVES and the purpose from each opening.

This causes a lot of problems, for example, when we go to the middle game without knowing the correct opening aim.

Where do I find material tht teachs the purposes and the "Why's" of each opening?

Even in opening thematic tournments here I search and can´t find the obejetives of the main openings.Prehaps 10 lines would, already, help to clarify a lot...

pfren

The correct approach to the openings for a newbie is fairly easy: Not bothering about them at all.

The opening fundamentals (described in detail in just about every GOOD book for novices) is more than enough.

discoweasel

http://www.chess.com/article/view/the-principles-of-the-opening

This above article helped me very much.  I haven't bothered to really try and learn specific openings given my level.  I just try to follow what this article says and develop pieces and castle as soon as reasonably possible.  :)

JairoPCJr

Okay.Thanks for the help.But it would be very interesting to know the objetives that the one that invented an opening had when he made it.It is, even, historical.And I would like to have a better understanding to the thematic events....

JFK-Ramsey

Jairo;

 I too have been searching for a resource that explains goals and objectives for the Openings and haven't found one. The closest I have come across are the "Starting Out Opening Guides" by Everyman Chess. They document the basic moves of an Opening and then provide a paragraph or two on strategy. I've found this helpful and don't understand why someone hasn't come out with an Opening manual that treats strategy/objectives in addition to the moves. If it is out there, I haven't found it.

Good luck

JairoPCJr

Yes, JFK-Ramsey.This is the ONLY resource that I did not find in Chess.com.I would like even simple explanations that could go, for example, to chessopedia...

ghostofmaroczy

The underlying principle of all openings is that white wants to have a healthy e4 pawn.

ThrillerFan
ghostofmaroczy wrote:

The underlying principle of all openings is that white wants to have a healthy e4 pawn.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!  My pawn is rarely on e4 until way later in the game unless Black pleas no contest to the center (i.e. King's Indian, Grunfeld, etc).

Catalan players have had tons of success with the pawn still on e2, and White doesn't even want his pawn on e4 as it impedes the "Catalan Bishop".

Those that play the White side of the Queen's Gambit, Nimzo-Indian, Slav, etc, are more than happy with their pawn on e3, and a later e3-e4 push isn't achieved until much later, if ever in some cases, and again, White has just as much success.

So NO, having an e4 pawn is NOT the underlying principle of ALL openings!  Not even close!

beardogjones
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TheOldReb

Try to get a copy of Ideas behind the Chess Openings by Ruben Fine .  I think it may be more what you are looking for. 

Dutchday

Just ask a specific question, add the game and tell us why you could not develop your pieces or why you had no middle game plan. 

If you're asking for literature? ''Mastering the Chess openings'' (volume 1 and 2) would be a good idea. A regular player can hardly be said to need anything else for years. Ideas and regular structures are covered. 

Martin_Stahl
JFK-Ramsey wrote:

Jairo;

 I too have been searching for a resource that explains goals and objectives for the Openings and haven't found one. The closest I have come across are the "Starting Out Opening Guides" by Everyman Chess. They document the basic moves of an Opening and then provide a paragraph or two on strategy. I've found this helpful and don't understand why someone hasn't come out with an Opening manual that treats strategy/objectives in addition to the moves. If it is out there, I haven't found it.

Good luck

There are quite a few books that go into at least some detail about opening ideas. Reb mentions one above. Watson's Mastering the Chess Openings series, while not an exhaustive look at all openings also gives ideas. I've heard good things about Fundamental Chess Openings but don't have it at this point. I'm kind of staying away from opening study, at this point, with the exception of using resources in correspondence.

I'm sure there are others too, though I don't know if there is a book or book set that is absolutely the best in the area.

waffllemaster
JairoPCJr wrote:

It is easy to find the best move list for any opening.But, for as, begginers-intermediate players it is difficult to catch the OBJECTIVES and the purpose from each opening.

This causes a lot of problems, for example, when we go to the middle game without knowing the correct opening aim.

Where do I find material tht teachs the purposes and the "Why's" of each opening?

Even in opening thematic tournments here I search and can´t find the obejetives of the main openings.Prehaps 10 lines would, already, help to clarify a lot...

This is actually an easy question to answer.  To find the why of the openings you need to learn about middle games and strategy.

henri5

Maybe the OP is barking up the wrong tree. There is little point in knowing "ideas" behind the openings if one does not know how to exploit them. For instance, if one does not understand the practicality of using open files or how to exploit backward pawns, or getting more space for the pieces, there is little advantage in getting such advantages. Not tomention that for players at this level, 95% of the game is about tactics, and say 80% of his time should be spent on learning tactics instead of openings (moast of the rest spent on playing).

Let us say by some chance the opponent lets you get a position where you can win by doing the "Lasker attack" (Bishop sacrifice followed by mate in a few moves). Any player not familiar with this pattern (most players below 1700) is very unlikely to find the moves leading to mate, whereas a Master player would see the moves within 10 seconds without doing any calculations.

JairoPCJr

Thanks guys.I will search for these books

ghostofmaroczy
ThrillerFan wrote:
ghostofmaroczy wrote:

The underlying principle of all openings is that white wants to have a healthy e4 pawn.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!  My pawn is rarely on e4 until way later in the game unless Black pleas no contest to the center (i.e. King's Indian, Grunfeld, etc).

Catalan players have had tons of success with the pawn still on e2, and White doesn't even want his pawn on e4 as it impedes the "Catalan Bishop".

Those that play the White side of the Queen's Gambit, Nimzo-Indian, Slav, etc, are more than happy with their pawn on e3, and a later e3-e4 push isn't achieved until much later, if ever in some cases, and again, White has just as much success.

So NO, having an e4 pawn is NOT the underlying principle of ALL openings!  Not even close!

The key here is that I was talking about the earliest moments of the opening.  I admit that what I said is an oversimplification.  I am talking about the positional underpinnings and what is desirable for white.  Within your framework of queen's pawn games, Yes, if black pleads no contest to the center white plays e2-e4.  In the Closed Catalan white does play e2-e4.  You mention the Queen's Gambit (1...d5) and the Nimzo-Indian (indirect battle for e4).  Notice how black is making an effort to control the e4 square.  If white plays e3, that is a concession.  It may be absolutely correct but it is still a concession.  Saying "all" was going too far.  The Open Catalan and the Alatortsev QGD disprove the original statement.  ThrillerFan be nice.

uwinagain

Planning openings; midgame strategy's, ?

plans and strategy's go out the window if your opponent makes a move to skupper your intentions.

Has a Master ever been beaten by someone of a much lower ranking even in a private casual game?

I'll bet my Granny they have!

DrFrank124c

The basic strategic ideas for all openings are given in the Holy Bible, i.e. Modern Chess Openings. Beyond that one should go to the data bases and see how these ideas are played out in actual games. You should also know and understand middle game strategies and ideas and tactics. Also very helpful is to view the videos on this website and on Youtube. Essentially you are asking, "What does one do after the memorized opening moves are played?" The answer is "Play chess."

kayak21

I don't have opening moves as such, I figure it out as I go. Win some lose some. ;)

uwinagain

Thanks kayak21 and franc124c. Glad that other people on here view it as its supposed to be...  A Game!