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David Rudel's Zuke 'Em and the Zukertort-Phoenix Attack

  • #41
    pfren wrote:
    Yigor έγραψε:

    Just a remark about the terminology. 5. b3 is called Colle System: Rubinstein Variation here. In addition, 8...Bxc5 is Colle System: Rubinstein Variation: Bogoljubov Defense.  Why is it renamed in Phoenix Zuke 'Em stuff ?!? 

    He advocates 9.b4 instead of the original 9.e4 stuff.

    Actually, nothing inventive: He just took regular semi-slav lines, and applied them to white, reversed colors with an extra tempo. This is OK- mutual chances, but that is that.

     

    All right, thanks. happy.png Actually, there are tons of optimal lines never played in master games. It's easy to see with any good chess engine. So with a sufficient desire and computer help, someone can write 1001 chess books containing only novelties. grin.png

  • #42
    pfren wrote:

    He advocates 9.b4 instead of the original 9.e4 stuff.

    Actually, nothing inventive: He just took regular semi-slav lines, and applied them to white, reversed colors with an extra tempo. This is OK- mutual chances, but that is that.

    There are two different versions of the Phoenix Attack. One for the Colle-Zukertort (b3) and one for the Colle-Koltanowski (c3). In former white plays 9.a3, while in the latter white plays 9.b4.

     

    Zukertort-Phoenix:  1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bd3 c5 5.b3 Nc6  6.0-0 Bd6 7.Bb2 0-0 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.a3

     

    Koltanowski-Phoenix 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bd3 c5 5.c3 Nc6 6.Nbd2 Bd6 7.0-0 0-0 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.b4 

     

    Incidentally IM Cyrus Lakdawala has adopted the Koltanowski-Phoenix and published it in several of his books. But it wouldn't be the first time that a so-called 'amateur opening' has been picked up by a titled player without proper acknowledgement of the source.

     

    GM Boris Avrukh covers the Koltanowski-Phoenix from blacks side in his "Beating 1.d4 Sidelines", but unfortunately the Grandmaster overlooks whites strongest line of play. 

     

     

     

     

  • #43
    Yigor wrote:

    Just a remark about the terminology. 5. b3 is called Colle System: Rubinstein Variation here. In addition, 8...Bxc5 is Colle System: Rubinstein Variation: Bogoljubov Defense.  Why is it renamed in Phoenix Zuke 'Em stuff ?!? 

    LMAO I thought 5.b3 is the Colle-Zukertort lol. Where are your references?

  • #44

    ah googled it rubinstein = colle-zukertort teewoi.. anyways 8...Bxc5 is somewhat forced how come it has a name? lol

  • #45
    Lee-44 wrote:
    pfren wrote:

    He advocates 9.b4 instead of the original 9.e4 stuff.

    Actually, nothing inventive: He just took regular semi-slav lines, and applied them to white, reversed colors with an extra tempo. This is OK- mutual chances, but that is that.

    There are two different versions of the Phoenix Attack. One for the Colle-Zukertort (b3) and one for the Colle-Koltanowski (c3). In former white plays 9.a3, while in the latter white plays 9.b4.

     

    Zukertort-Phoenix:  1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bd3 c5 5.b3 Nc6  6.0-0 Bd6 7.Bb2 0-0 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.a3

     

    Koltanowski-Phoenix 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bd3 c5 5.c3 Nc6 6.Nbd2 Bd6 7.0-0 0-0 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.b4 

     

    Incidentally IM Cyrus Lakdawala has adopted the Koltanowski-Phoenix and published it in several of his books. But it wouldn't be the first time that a so-called 'amateur opening' has been picked up by a titled player without proper acknowledgement of the source.

     

    GM Boris Avrukh covers the Koltanowski-Phoenix from blacks side in his "Beating 1.d4 Sidelines", but unfortunately the Grandmaster overlooks whites strongest line of play. 

     

     

     

     can u give me some books of lakdawala where he advocates the phoenix

  • #46
    EvergreenStallion wrote:
     can u give me some books of lakdawala where he advocates the phoenix

    The Colle: Move by Move.

    First Steps: the Colle and London Systems.

     

    Neither book is as detailed or comprehensive as Rudel's coverage of the opening.

     

  • #47
    EvergreenStallion wrote:

    ah googled it rubinstein = colle-zukertort teewoi.. anyways 8...Bxc5 is somewhat forced how come it has a name? lol

     

    Yeah, sorry, actually Colle System: Rubinstein Opening: Bogoljubov Defense is 7....O-O. U called it Main Line. wink.png The position after 8...Bxc5 appeared first in this old Von Scheve-Zukertort  (1887) game:

    https://www.chess.com/games/view/3407

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