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The advantage of openings like this is in the meta-game. Deviating from the tournament standards (Ruy Lopez, Scotch, Queens pawn, etc) is a very good way to throw off your opponent (assuming he isn't familiar with the particular opening). I've caught many people off-guard with the simple Steinitz variation of the petrov defense, simply because they hadn't seen it before (although it's quite popular now). My other favourite is the apocalypse variation on the Caro-Kann, which violates a fair few opening principles.
MukadeCamelCase wrote:
The advantage of openings like this is in the meta-game. Deviating from the tournament standards (Ruy Lopez, Scotch, Queens pawn, etc) is a very good way to throw off your opponent (assuming he isn't familiar with the particular opening). I've caught many people off-guard with the simple Steinitz variation of the petrov defense, simply because they hadn't seen it before (although it's quite popular now). My other favourite is the apocalypse variation on the Caro-Kann, which violates a fair few opening principles.
True, but there's a million ways to surprise your opponent, so why sacrifice a pawn to do it?
GodIike hat geschrieben:
MukadeCamelCase wrote:
The advantage of openings like this is in the meta-game. Deviating from the tournament standards (Ruy Lopez, Scotch, Queens pawn, etc) is a very good way to throw off your opponent (assuming he isn't familiar with the particular opening). I've caught many people off-guard with the simple Steinitz variation of the petrov defense, simply because they hadn't seen it before (although it's quite popular now). My other favourite is the apocalypse variation on the Caro-Kann, which violates a fair few opening principles.
True, but there's a million ways to surprise your opponent, so why sacrifice a pawn to do it?
Why shouldnt you sacrifice a pawn, when you get a compensation? On club level a pawn more or less is rarely decesive for the outcome of the game...
Dont compare Carlsen vs. Anand with amateur games...
As long as we play on club level, you can play nearly everything in the opening.
I play on a higher club level and i always play crappy openings, sometimes i win, sometimes i lose.
I doubt, if i had better results with the QGD instead of the BDG...
In my personal case its the opposite, i improved my ratings (although i dont care about them) since i play "unsound openings".
And if you still not believe, then take a look at the statistics...in most databases (for example here on chess.com) the Blackmar-Diemer has a much better win ratio than standard openings.
Maybe its not played by Anand and Carlsen...if you think, that this is the only seal of quality for a good opening, then you have to play the Berlin-Defence in the Ruy Lopez.
ajian hat geschrieben:
debate legitamite-ness of openings. I claim that the blackmar diemer is not legitimate.
i dont agree...
Sure, the BDG isnt an opening made for pea- and pawn-counters, but if you like to play for attack its the perfect choice...
If you want to refute the BDG, then please dont try to do it with the Teichmann-Defence (5...Bg4) and try the Ziegler-Defence (5...c6) instead, cause from the actual point of theory this variation is the hardest test for the BDG.
There's nothing wrong with Bg4. It is the most played move for a reason.
Although you are correct, 5./4. (Ziegler/O'Kelly defense) c6 is probably the strongest move.
The problem is, gambits like these aren't as strong when played vs computers and GM's, however they usually produce fun and exciting games, something which many strive for especially as white.
Cheddarman1 hat geschrieben:
There's nothing wrong with Bg4. It is the most played move for a reason.
Although you are correct, 5./4. (Ziegler/O'Kelly defense) c6 is probably the strongest move.
The problem is, gambits like these aren't as strong when played vs computers and GM's, however they usually produce fun and exciting games, something which many strive for especially as white.
agreed...thats why i dont play it versus GM´s and computer programs :P
debate legitamite-ness of openings. I claim that the blackmar diemer is not legitimate.