Defences to the Parham Attack

from the theoretical position white gains nothing from the opening 

that statement is from Kramnik. World champion guy . 2800 player etc. 

so from a theoretical point of view white has better options

as i have explained before. The otherproblem with the patzer opening is its  whole concept is based on a quick attack that white hopes wins due to a major oversight by black. 
There is no structural basis or long term plan for white to follow up on in to the middlegame. The loss of tempi from the queen and over commitment to the queen to a certain area of the board results in white scrambling to play catch up with a plan for the middlegame.

read soltis pawn structure chess and you will grasp that pawn structure guides piece development if a piece is out of play then it results in a loss of tempi later in the middlegame when it usually can be ill afforded.

I teach the guccio piano and italian game because the ideas of c3 and a fast d4 result in rapid development , space grabbing in the center with pawn centers, ideas and structures that can be related to other openings in the long term.

the human mind is pattern based. if you learn patterns and where pieces go and how they coordinate together from the pawn structure you can build on it later. If you try to break this pattern and go your own way then its usually detrimental for long term development even if short term results are apparently "ok". 

The patzer attack does have points but its limited in its ability to expand or build on long term. The strange positions that result are usually successful at the lower levels but fail as a player reaches stronger and stronger opposition. Then finally just collapses in on itself. Some openings provide greater challenges due to the theory and strategical challenges involved for each side .  players may have to take to risks to equalize according to theory  but  due to us being human we forget things so players gambit, OK if my opponent remembers this obscure theory I get an equal position and i can hold a draw or if they forget a key idea or two I can torture them.  whats the trick with the patzer opening? Oh no a mate threat on f2? I kick your queen around castle and the position is equal. meaning EQUAL chances to win for both sides. and often white is just left with out a plan once the tricks are over and has to reorient himself to a real plan like c3 and d4 which could have been played with out a loss of time.

and what does it build on? what structures are you learning? 

I also notice you failed to answer my questions about FM-GM playing it.\

if you want to play something obscure fine. do so

The simple fact is that black obtains EQUALITY! meaning he has equal chances to win as white. NOT drawn positions. there is a difference as I stated. You might catch someone once but after that my strong suspicion is your results will dramatically drop.

Define good as well How many games have you played list it by rating and  result  from the Patzer opening.

I have said multiple times that black isn't winning, but has an example. Please stop making false comments where you say that I think black is winning. If played correctly black gains an advantage out of the parham.

However, I did say in specific variations that black is winning, for example in the following position. These variations have been promoted by gavinator and whatupyodog:

My main problem with you sungolian is that you keep posting that I think black is winning after move 2 even though I have corrected you multiple times. Please stop.

I have won many blitz games with the hippo. In fact, Spassky even played it once, and I've known players FM and higher who still play it every once in a while. By Gavinators logic this must be the best opening.

And the hippo is actually better than the parham in my opinion. The only difference is that it is played by black so you don't have an advantage to give up. I'm sure if someone played the parham after a move such as 2. Nc3 for black it would probably result in a horrible disadvantage (although not necesarily a lossed position)

Scandinavian has one valid purpose that is overlooked by people like you. The development of the queen is to a square such as d6 or a5 where it can not be easily attacked, and, more importantly, it PROVOKES white into playing 3. Nc3, which blocks the c pawn. This PREVENTS white from setting up the normal development scheme for the PAWN STRUCTURE with pawns on c4 and d4, and the knights BEHIND the pawns.

Also, I'm pretty sure the center game is another opening that is considered to allow black at least equality. It's the same thing about PAWN STRUCTURE, in the resulting structure e4 is not a particularly useful move.

This is exactly what I have been saying! But for some reason Sungolian thinks that I said that the Parham is an instant loss for white. Sungolian, please point out exactly where I said that, as I do not recall saying anything of the sort.

White doesn't gain an extra tempo in the Scandinavian as Qxd5 is bringing a piece out with tempo.

I remember someone trying this crap on me now in a tourney game. I chose the Sicilian and quickly squashed this. I am going to go back and look for this game to see if I won. I am pretty sure I did.

For something to giggle about while trying to find the game someone tried using the Parham against, I set up the position for the Chessmaster engine to play itself using the Parham. Move 5, white puts the queen back where it came from....any questions about its viability still?

21 moves later, white is down a minor piece...

That's because engines don't work well with the Parham, they don't play matrix chess.

Actually, even engines rate white an entire half point better in your line...

My engine gives black a -0.25 edge after 6. d3. If that's what you want out of an opening as white, continue to play it and lose, Gavi.

How come I almost always win? You lost to it lol

I went 1-1, and the loss was blundering mate. I beat it lol.

The win was a knight blunder, you got worked over when you lost, you lost lol...

Okay, I'll play you in a forum game in the position after 23...f5. If you can find any way to hold even a draw I will accept that this opening might be playable, not good but playable.

I won first lol.

Yeah you won after he blundered a knight. Then you lost lol. And CS, I never said that shepi's game proved anything, it's an example of how the h6 g5 system isn't good.