also nowadays nobody below a high level knows any theory/plans and they just relay on intuition or what they think looks good
does the Scandinavian actually work??
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Jun 30, 2023
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#143
@AngryPuffer - while I do like to avoid 'mainline theory' where I can, I'm not certain what you are getting at. "...at your level"? If you check, you will see that I ONLY play people less than 50 points of me or all the way up as far as ratings go'; so by choice I try to play people well above 'my level'.
your oppoments probally play like this:
most people play like this at the lower levels and its a very non-confronting setup that allows black equality
11) Nd5,Bb4 12)Bxb4,Nxb4 13)Ne7+,Kh8 14)Nxf5, Qxf5 or exf5
Jun 30, 2023
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#147
AngryPuffer wrote:
your oppoments probally play like this:
most people play like this at the lower levels and its a very non-confronting setup that allows black equality
Uh...no. You are 0 for 2 in your assumptions. Come on, swing for the right field fence next time.
obviously im not
- youre 2000 blitz
- you have never seen white play like i showed
Jun 30, 2023
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#149
You said 'most'.
Again, I ONLY play people less than 50 points of me up to....as far as it goes on chess.com. I rarely watch really weak players play (save for a few longtime friends) so, no, I am not an expert in 'how' they play.
To humor you and so you will need to 'assume' no more, I downloaded all my wins in the Scandinavian after 2.ed5 from chess.com (I play on other sites as well).
169 wins
Highest rated win: peterwoo: 2634
Lowest rated win: tze101: 1805
Average opponents rating: 2052
this does not prove you wrong or right... you are not even on topic and seem to have started to talk about something different. ill just let you be ig
Jun 30, 2023
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#151
Mr. "Angry", I've nothing to 'prove'. YOU are the one who voices 'assumptions'. I just gave you some facts - these are all here on the chess.com site for you to verify. Believe them or not...as you wish.
The 'topic' is "Does the Scandinavian actually work??"
I think the answer is that it depends on whose hands it is in. I think the numbers provided by myself and others show that it can be as viable as many other more 'respectable' defenses. Now, please, troll me no more...best off for both of us to speak no more.
the answer is really:
if the person you are playing agianst does not know the critical lines/setups for white or how to punish blacks inaccuracies/mistakes in the opening then it is great defense for black and can give good counterattacking chances
Jul 1, 2023
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#153
to 1983b boy...
2 e5 is bad and allows good development for black (bishop out with c5 in one move)
3 d4... theres the portuguese? not good at top level but you dont care about that
Jul 1, 2023
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#154
The Scandinavian main line I find kinda sketchy. It’s not the best and you can just play Sicilian defense or e5. Black has those options and in Scandinavian black brings out his queen too early and it just gets attacked. I don’t think it’s practical.
it's practical. and playable. it is a cousin to the CaroKann, Sicilian, and French in the idea of when and why black plays c5. the Sicilian plays c5 immediately, the French plays c5 intermediately, in the CaroKann it is delayed, and in the Scandinavian maybe not till the middlegame.
Jul 1, 2023
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#156
If you have time to 'master' the Sicilian or ...e5 (and that would likely be a multi-year task) you are welcome to it! There are plenty of 'sketchy' lines there was well.
The beauty of 1...d5 for the average player (which I think included all of us) is that YOU start driving play on move 1. In those other choices....there are just way too many ways for WHITE to take things down the road he wants. You also have different ways to play on moves 2 and 3 and can switch it up depending on your taste.
I remember 20 yrs ago a good friend of mine (just an 1800 or so USCF player) prepped the Kalishnikov variation of the Sicilian. THIRTEEN OTB games passed before he even got to play it. Everyone and their brother would chose an early Bb5 or c3 line or something. When he finally did get to play it...he did get an attack but (as I recall) forgot some of the line and got beaten.
This is nice
I don't think that 7.Ne5,... busts the line but does cause black problems in the center. 7..., Qb6 is one proposed solution. It just takes the game down a different branch of the tree. Although I have seen some wicked white rook exchange sacrifices for the black bishop on f5. I have not explored those lines to see if it is survivable.
white has more pieces out, better center, and has more attacking opportunities
and possiblythe reason you rarely see this specific line. In other lines, this does not have to happen. Also, many, if not most people play 9...gf6.
In any case, in THIS line, one could argue that Bd2 is....not exactly 'good development'...and will need to get moved again...and the Bc4 will need to be moved in order to play the natural c4 (similar to what I said earlier about an early Nc3). Again, not all development really counts as 'development' and such simplistic 'counting of tempi' is simply too simplistic for one to hang their hat on.
no
white castles long in the main line and Bd2 is literally the most played/best move
We can agree to differ...but I play it regularly and say otherwise.
we can agree that people at your level dont know how to use their extra tempos and punish you
i doubt you have ever seen the main moves for white in a real game