Dragon Defense

 Um, thank you for the response, but could you please provide some discussion on the Sicilian Dragon?

Thanks.

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G-Money, there is clearly no need to quote the previous post when you request on-topic discussion, and so it is obvious that you also enjoy playing around with giant quote pyramids...

 As per Nytik's request, I'll add to this.

The Najdorf looks bad, but it has been played by grandmasters and is recommended.  In theory, it shouldn't work, but it has good percentages.  I'm going with the percentages, because they lead to more often wins. 

You're right Nytik, I shouldn't have just told him to be on-topic.  I wasn't even on topic before!  Sorry!

I hope that bit of information on the Najdorf was what you were looking for...

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Where on earth did you get the idea that it is refuted, by the way?

I mean, half the current top players seem to use it regularly, but even before that all I remember is that it was unpopular. When was it considered refuted?

Yes the Najdorf enjoys the status of being endorsed by players of all levels, with virtually all top GMs and experts agreeing that the defense is 100% SOUND. But it still doesn't make it an easy opening to play. I think it's very intuitive and flexible, making it a dangerous weapon in the hands of Fischer and Kasparov. Because White has to commit to a strategy before Black, these guys can always find the perfect counterattack just because they play heads and shoulders above everyone else.

But it's very tricky defense: accepting tempo loss in the opening in order to maintain flexibility, and relying on the central-pawn majority and a very, very timely a6-b5 combo to delay the onslaught of White pieces in the middle game.

I personally cut my teeth on the Sicilian Dragon, and still dabble in the Dragondorf, so I still have a fondness for it. While it may be less sound than other choices at the highest levels of chess, this only matters to about 0.01% of the chess population. For the rest of us not named Fischer and Kasparov, the Dragon is perfectly fine, with Super GMs like Carlsen taking it up, and Dzindzichasvili giving a Roman's Lab lecture on it here at Chess.com. The Dragon is a fine opening choice PERIOD.

 1278g07, do you have a response to this?

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I like 2...g6.

Certainly (for obvious reasons) I haven't read the whole thread... as much as watching a laughing competition amuses me. 

Anyways to the point ... the Dragon is certainly NOT refuted but those outlandish claims that the Dragon provides immediate equality with more dynamic chances (as I've heard often since Carlsen picked it up) is a joke.  If black equalizes it isn't because his bishop is on g7.  ... White can make black answer several hard questions before any form of dynamic equality (and at times I question static) can be achieved. 

As much as I like attacking chess, I hesitate to play the line as black.  On the other hand seeing this line as white leaves me with this 'can't lose' feeling.

wow...... were any of those HUGE boxes really needed at all? lol.

Yes

 with all the retarded spamming going on nobody bothered to notice 11.h4?? is a terrible mistake black replied h5? and recomended  (Ne5)   but black should play 11h4..... Nxd4!  now if 12.Bxd4 black plays Rxc4 winning a piece

   and if   11.h4...Nxd4  12.qxd4....Ng4!  (this atacks the white queen via the g7 bishop)       13.Qd2...Nxe3   14.Qxe3...Rxc4   -+    0-1 black wins

 I am a dragon player and hate to see my opening not get the proper credit!

Indeed, 11. Bb3 is necessary and is mainline.

You think that's not right? Well, you know why? it's because that you don't know how to play dragon properly. if you don't play h5 to replie h5, then white would play g4 and then trying to exchange off that pawn on g6. 

no and yes, I mean...

Yeah right

By the way, G-Money7, I should've said this before the last 4 giant quotes... I didn't say"Yeah right" And you said a lot of things.

LOL

mwhahaha thats what i call a lagh none of this sissy haha thing

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