21005 Players currently online!
Man vs. Machine - good luck!
Turn-based games at any time!
Vote for the best move to win!
Do you have what it takes?
Backgammon, Yatzy, and more!
Sharpen your tactical vision!
Get advice and game insights!
Learn from top players & pros!
View millions of master games!
Your virtual chess coach!
Perfect your opening moves!
Test your skills vs. computer!
Find the right private coach!
Can you solve it each day?
Bring it all together!
Beginners, start here!
Make friends & play team games!
News from the world of chess!
Search all Chess.com members!
Find local clubs & events!
Who's the best of your friends?
Read what members are saying!
Do you think White has a chance to get an advantage from this position?
White can play c3 and get an extra centre pawn. So yes, he has decent chances.
This is a real variation, forgot what it's called. White gets attacking chances on the kingside.
(Oh lol it's in the title, yeah the dunst).
2...dxe4 seems better as Black doesn't have to entomb his light-square bishop but 2...d4 is definitely a line too
I fail to see how playing 2...d4 entombs any of black's pieces.
I've only seen this online, never bothered to look it up. Seems I've been giving white more of an attack than necessary.
I was wondering when somebody was gonna say that.
wafflemaster I was referring to 2...e6
@ ExpertiseOh, sorry, I misread powerlevel's post. I thought he was saying "why would I play..." so I thought you were talking to the OP.
Yeah, e6 is completely unambitious. If white wants to hand over the first move advantage, why would you hand it right back?
Thank you guys . I wanted something to force the Scandinavians away from their boring routines (c6,e6, Bf5 etc,etc... ) but the problem is that the Scandinavian is damn forcing (2: e5 is crap and the BD gambit is risky at least as far as I know).
On Wikipedia there is this description:
"White's most common response to 1...d5 is 2.e4. This is the same position as 1.e4 d5 2.Nc3, an obscure branch of the Scandinavian Defense. Black has five plausible responses to 2.e4: 2...e6 and 2...c6 transpose to the French and Caro-Kann Defenses, and 2...Nf6 to a variation of Alekhine's Defence. The move 2...d4 gives Black a spatial advantage, which White may work to undermine along the lines of hypermodernism. Keilhack writes, "2...d4 is chosen either by somewhat naive players who are attracted by the fact that Black wins time and space ... or by strong players who are aware of the strategic risks but are striving for a complex battle."
Over the last six years, the sequence 1 Nc3 d5 2 e4 d4 3 Nce2 e5 4 Ng3 Be6 scores 86% for Black, Black over-performs their rating by 300 points. Now, it is rarely played so the stats aren't definitive, but they aren't pretty either.
Why would White enter such a ridiculous line: he has voluntarily given Black a strong pawn center that cannot be easily attacked, a relatively easy and flexible development, while in the process making three moves to get his Knight to the ineffective g3 square.
There are many e4 & d4 lines where White can just opt for a simple equality by not pushing for advantage, who in their right mind would willingly enter such an awful position?
"Why would White enter such a ridiculous line" ? That's what I want to know. Why, as white, choose a line that hands the initiative over to black almost immediately? Then you spend most of the rest of the game trying to dig yourself out of the hole you've gotten yourself into.....
Actually Black can insist on playing the Scandinavian unless White plays something else than Nc3 ...
"Isle of Man and Millionaire Preview! With GM Van Kampen and GM Hansen"
Is chess a sport? Ending the debate
by SnowRealms 2 minutes ago
real men play BULLET!!
by chesster3145 3 minutes ago
The Art of Bongunderio
by Bilbo21 4 minutes ago
Team based chat and events in live chess
by hotwax 7 minutes ago
i wanna hear your opinions on people that abort or even dont start games
by GodsPawn2016 8 minutes ago
Piece Sacrifice for the Center Control?
by leklerk1 16 minutes ago
9/29/2016 - Occupying The Escape Square
by boot10 18 minutes ago
Help Anyone....Help !....Can I Draw ?
by n9531l 19 minutes ago
Oldest Chess Book?
by Elroch 23 minutes ago
Accidentally played rated chess games
by StairwayToTruth 24 minutes ago
Why Join | Chess Topics |
Help & Support |
© 2016 Chess.com
• Chess - English
Try the new Chess.com!
We are working hard to make Chess.com available in over 70 languages. Check back over the year as we develop the technology to add more, and we will try our best to notify you when your language is ready for translating!