Evans gambit
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Might be a decent choice, rewards the better prepared player. I don't think white gets much in this line though.
Aug 24, 2013
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#4
8.Ng5 seems an improvement, although this is (probably) best play by black
I am asking what happens if black doesnt play the best move and how to get advantage of it
Ng5 has been analysed a lot, don't think white can make too much of it.
A lot of the ideas are the same, Qb3 to pile up on f7, e5 to unsettle any piece on f6, Ba3 to halt blacks castling etc.
Aug 24, 2013
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#6
i mean any specific line where white gets an attack
Much appreciated!
What about Be7 and Bc5?
White gets a big attack if black takes both pawns, called the compromised defence.
Maybe this will help with Be7, following Kasparov-Anand.
Some of these may be examples against bad play. Not sure how well I played in any though:
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=66779414
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=63734482
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=66215182
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=66313916
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=72965122
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=72005117
Roeczak wrote:
After three years of playing the giuoco pianissimo, i decided it offers to much chances of drawing for black . I need something to beat players in the 1400-1577(my rating)-1900 range. I am underrated so please mr.pfren dont call me a patzer. What do you think of the Evans? Some tricks to catch an unprepared oppie off-guard?
Thanks,
Roeczak (i will be on vacation till 1 Sept and the tourney is on 8 Sept, so plz help)
September 8th?! That's my birthday.
Aug 25, 2013
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GSHAPIROY wrote:
Roeczak wrote:
After three years of playing the giuoco pianissimo, i decided it offers to much chances of drawing for black . I need something to beat players in the 1400-1577(my rating)-1900 range. I am underrated so please mr.pfren dont call me a patzer. What do you think of the Evans? Some tricks to catch an unprepared oppie off-guard?
Thanks,
Roeczak (i will be on vacation till 1 Sept and the tourney is on 8 Sept, so plz help)
September 8th?! That's my birthday.
LOL- I was born exactly 111 years after Capablanca (NOT joking)
Aug 25, 2013
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#11
Scottrf wrote:
Some of these may be examples against bad play. Not sure how well I played in any though:
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=66779414
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=63734482
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=66215182
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=66313916
Thanks a lot, Scottrf! Unforunately I am leaving for vacation in an hour...
Aug 25, 2013
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#12
Scottrf wrote:
White gets a big attack if black takes both pawns, called the compromised defence.
Maybe this will help with Be7, following Kasparov-Anand.
Thx!
Aug 25, 2013
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#13
Snowyqueen wrote:
Roeczak wrote:
What do you think of the Evans? Some tricks to catch an unprepared oppie off-guard?
I like it a lot. Rather than think of it as a series of tricks, I think you should think of it as a perfectly valid way to unbalance the position. There are one or two lines I haven't figured out how to crack, but it is not about finding a "forced win" - it's about long-term pressure for the pawn. Generally when I lose with it it's beause my opponent outplayed me in the middle game, not because I lost a theoretical battle.
Play it because you want a wide-open position with attacking possibilities where you're sure to be able to play for a win.
In the position after 7 ... Nge7, white has a lot of options. If you're wary of the drawing chances after 8.Ng5 or cxd4, you could experiment with the relatively unknown 8.Qb3 or 8.Ba3. That's one of the fun things about the Evans: you can re-order the "standard" moves in a variety of ways to prevent your opponent from playing a pet line, and in most of them you end up with more active pieces against an extra pawn in a roughly equal position - which is to say, plenty of chances to win.
This isn't an opening where if black knows the theory he gets an easy draw or win. Rather, if he knows the theory he gets a theoretically equal but unbalanced position where the better player can often win.
I agree. However, most blacks don't know the theory and get crashed in 20 moves. That is what i asked for. Thanks for contributing anyway!
Aug 25, 2013
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#14
Returning Sep 1- Bye!
PS: Somebody keep bumping so I find it easily when I return!
7.Qb3 cuts out the 7...Nge7 lines, and is generally considered more accurate than 7.0-0 these days.
It's definitely a good weapon against opponents in the range you're looking at I'd say, although stronger players tend to have a good line against it and then you're struggling probably.
The ideas are to develop quickly, push your centre aggressively to cramp Black and play energetically - this is the key - keep making threats. Preventing/hindering Black's castling abilities should come into play sometimes as well.
My own OTB experiences with this opening are limited (in general I've played little OTB) but the one game I did play in it was a 20 minute game vs. a 153 ECF (like 1850 FIDE or something) and I won - plus, my opponent was not prepared for it.
Sep 1, 2013
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#18
Thanks a lot waller!
What about Bc5 and Be7? Also, in the declined , what about b5 instead of a4?
Sep 1, 2013
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#19
pfren wrote:
Roeczak wrote:
Thanks a lot waller!
What about Bc5 and Be7? Also, in the declined , what about b5 instead of a4?
White can probably equalize after 4...Bb6 5.b5, although it's not such an easy task.
White either has to play 5.a4, or 5.c3- the latter usually transposes to an Italian after 5...Nf6 6.d3. White has no advantage in either line, but at least he plays normal chess instead of struggling right in the opening.
What about the accepted, mr.pfren?
After three years of playing the giuoco pianissimo, i decided it offers to much chances of drawing for black . I need something to beat players in the 1400-1577(my rating)-1900 range. I am underrated so please mr.pfren dont call me a patzer. What do you think of the Evans? Some tricks to catch an unprepared oppie off-guard?
Thanks,
Roeczak (i will be on vacation till 1 Sept and the tourney is on 8 Sept, so plz help)