GM BOBBY FISCHER...HAS ALL THE POWER OF CONTRADICTION...IN CHESS...WITH THE SPECIALIZTION OF RUY LOPEZ OPENING ..THE GREATEST CHESS GRANDMASTER OF ALL TIME ....
fischer destroys the scandinavian
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jemptymethod wrote:
moffatB wrote:
GM BOBBY FISCHER...HAS ALL THE POWER OF CONTRADICTION...IN CHESS...WITH THE SPECIALIZTION OF RUY LOPEZ OPENING ..THE GREATEST CHESS GRANDMASTER OF ALL TIME ....
Has nothing whatsoever to do with the Scandinavian
but he posted in "all caps" so it must be important.
Sep 4, 2010
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3. ... Qd8 can't be played, maby becouse of Fischer. But this is only the 3. ... Qd8 variation Fischer detroys.
I dont know much about the Scandanavian, but i know that GM Allan Stig Rasmussen, at Copenhagen Open 2010, refused to play against the Scandanavian as white.
GM Allan Stig Rasmussen played 1. d4 against Johan-Sebastian Christiansen. If Allan played 1. e4, Johan would play 1. ... d5?!
Why did'nt Allan play 1. e4 and crushed his much weeker oponment in the scandanavian? Or is'nt that opening that bad?
Sep 4, 2010
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SeirupDK wrote:
3. ... Qd8 can't be played, maby becouse of Fischer. But this is only the 3. ... Qd8 variation Fischer detroys.
I dont know much about the Scandanavian, but i know that GM Allan Stig Rasmussen, at Copenhagen Open 2010, refused to play against the Scandanavian as white.
GM Allan Stig Rasmussen played 1. d4 against Johan-Sebastian Christiansen. If Allan played 1. e4, Johan would play 1. ... d5?!
Why did'nt Allan play 1. e4 and crushed his much weeker oponment in the scandanavian? Or is'nt that opening that bad?
i enjoy playing the scandinavian otb. it's a fun opening to play and opponents at my rating do not always know how to play against it as white.
i do not play 3...Qd8 however. it's much too slow for my liking. i almost always play 3...Qa5, but i think i may start trying the 3...Qd6 line and try it out.
Sep 4, 2010
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trigs wrote:
SeirupDK wrote:
3. ... Qd8 can't be played, maby becouse of Fischer. But this is only the 3. ... Qd8 variation Fischer detroys.
I dont know much about the Scandanavian, but i know that GM Allan Stig Rasmussen, at Copenhagen Open 2010, refused to play against the Scandanavian as white.
GM Allan Stig Rasmussen played 1. d4 against Johan-Sebastian Christiansen. If Allan played 1. e4, Johan would play 1. ... d5?!
Why did'nt Allan play 1. e4 and crushed his much weeker oponment in the scandanavian? Or is'nt that opening that bad?
i enjoy playing the scandinavian otb. it's a fun opening to play and opponents at my rating do not always know how to play against it as white.
i do not play 3...Qd8 however. it's much too slow for my liking. i almost always play 3...Qa5, but i think i may start trying the 3...Qd6 line and try it out.
At the Blitz World Championship, Kramnik did play the Scandanavian 3. ... Qd6 against 1. e4 all the time! Check it out!
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I dont know much about the Scandanavian, but i know that GM Allan Stig Rasmussen, at Copenhagen Open 2010, refused to play against the Scandanavian as white.
Complete and utter nonsense: nobody worthy of the GM title avoids playing White against the Scandinavian on general purposes. If their opponent specializes in it however, that is entirely another matter.
Then why did GM Allan Stig Rasmussen play 1. d4 instead of 1. e4? If he played e4 he would play against the Scandanavian for sure, becouse black dont play anything else against 1. e4. You can se the game here, first round:
I heard GM Allan Stig Rasmussens lectures (the middle one, 'Hvordan man gør sin modstander dårlig' or in english 'how to make your opponment suck'.:
In the lectures GM Allan Stig Rasmussen clearly said that he played 1. d4 becouse he dont wanted to play white against the Scandanavian, becouse his opponment has played it so much.
Dec 25, 2013
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I am going to disagree. The scandinavian is NOT Qd8. The purpose of the Scandinavian is not to move the queen back. No wonder Fischer beat the Scandinavian here.
Nothing wrong with Qd8
Fischer was going to beat these players anyway. The Qd8 choice had nothing to do with it, and nobody would be calling it a refutation of Qa5 if he had dispatched them similarly in those lines, as he most assuredly would have.
NewYorkRod wrote:
I am going to disagree. The scandinavian is NOT Qd8. The purpose of the Scandinavian is not to move the queen back. No wonder Fischer beat the Scandinavian here.
There's a brand new book that makes the case that 3...Qd8 is one of several acceptable moves and I agree with all the premises of the author, an NM: 3...Qd8 keeps pressure on White's d-pawn, and after other queen moves such as 3...Qa5 or 3...Qd6, Black's queen is often compelled to move again anyway.
The 3...Qd8 Scandinavian: Simple and Strong
Aug 17, 2021
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All I see is Fischer playing two opponents who did not know how to play the Qd8 Scandi.
Addison bafflingly plays 11...gxf6 instead of the obvious 11...Nxf6 (why double your pawns when the whole point of playing 9...Nbd7 was to reinforce your knight on f6? Insanity!)
As for Robatsch, I do not know what he was thinking with 4...g6 but that is no way to play the Qd8 Scandi. I get that this game was played a long time ago, but even back then 4...Nf6 was theory.
Scandinavian is a good defence. Here is a game from Carlsen with it.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1768345
i was reading a little about the scandinavian defense today and i came across a couple miniatures by the great Bobby Fischer. i thought i'd share them with everyone.
the first is against William G. Addison and the second is against Karl Robatsch. some feel that the passive 3...Qd8 line fell out of fashion after Fischer came up with these two gems.