g4 in the QGD?

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GmPrice

I have had problems with playing the Queen's gambit declined, orthodox variation move order as black. Sometimes my opponent, White, will play g4! and start a pawnstorm against my King. It can be tricky to stop it, but I wanted to know, is it a recognized opening that one could find in the MCO or similar chess opening databse? The set up my not be identical to what is played, but it looks something like this.

 

GmPrice

Again, it's not precisely the set up, but it's very similar, and very annoying.

Scottrf

Looks like a far more disorganised version of the Keres attack.

GmPrice

I played at a chess club recently, just for fun, and this one guy used it religiously. He would pretty much bring the Queen up to e2, and leave the possibility of castling queenside in the air, while attacking with pawns, and eventually getting his G-knight to e5! it was really annoying.

AngryMacrophage

The game has transposed into a semi-slav so you might be able to find some more example games by searching for that. I am not sure what the best reply here for black is here. What sort of continuations have you seen?

Wrinn

An immediate e5 here for black looks good.  If he's going to spend time attacking and not protecting his king, bust open the center and take advantage ;P

GmPrice

sometimes White also plays f4, and then again, puts the knight on e5. It makes me feel paralyzed, like I can't open anything, because he just recaptures with the pawns and shuts me out.

GmPrice

I'd like to thank you guys for your input, it's so hard for me to find good and timely input on chess positions and information Smile

Wrinn

Looks ok.

GmPrice

I think you are right wrinn. I flipped out for some reason when I was faced with it over the board. 

Wrinn

Well, I've learned that there's two things you need to do when your opponent makes a move(s) like this:

1. What are they threatening?  In this case, white is threatening a pawn storm, space advantage, cramping your pieces.  

2.  What are they weakening/how are they making their position worse?  Well, his king is still in the center of the board, his knight and rooks are still undeveloped, and he's weakening the light squares in particular with an f4 push, e4 is now a gaping hole in the white side.  Not to mention that his bishop on g5 is looking kind of trapped.  With respect to g4 instead of f4, again pushing your e-pawn simply strikes at his pawn chain in the middle and lets your c8 bishop eye that tasty g4 pawn.

azziralc

I had seen a pawn sacrifice on g4 on the game kasparov vs Deep Junior. This move temporarily sacrifice a pawn so the rook can slide to an open g-file to attack the king directly.

azziralc

It means that White is going to castle on queenside and will start pushing pawns on kingside.

DemonicArchangel

Here is an example in semi-slav

BunWithGun6392

isnt g4 just giving away a pawn? (this is probs a stoopid thing to say)

DemonicArchangel

nah Rg1