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Oct 19, 2023
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#1
Ok, so I want to build the repertoire around the french defence, and I would love to know which systems can be played with both colors and can be started with e6 or e3. Right now I can think of only the colle, colle-zukertort, nimzo/queen indians and the stonewall. Maybe there is another option? At best the opening should be dangerous yet solid, meaning I can win fast, but if I don’t, I won’t lose(like the advanced french, where you CAN win the whole queenside, but if you don’t, your position isn’t worse.)
Nimzo-Larsen, e6 Dutch, Colle, London, NID/QID/BID/Benoni/QGD/Semi-Slav, Stonewall, French, Reti Gambit, Blumenfeld, e6 Sicilian, essentially any slower d4 opening, a lot of English openings, et cetera. Can’t think of any else off the top of my head.
Oct 19, 2023
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#4
There is ZERO reason to try to get the same position as White as you do with Black. They call it a Defense for a reason!
That said, while it doesn't "always" lead to French-type positions, one good one is the Sokolsky. White goes for an immediate queenside attack - the side Black typically attacks in the French, plays e3, and depending on the line, often times d4 eventually.
Probably the variation that most resembles the French comes in the 2...f6 line:
1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 f6 3.b5 d5 4.e3 Bd6 5.d4 e4 6.Nfd2 with c4 basically coming next, attacking d5.
But there are some lines that don't play like a French, like 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 d6, which plays more like a King's Indian (3...Nf6/4...g6/5...Bg7) or else 3...f5, and then the "Exchange Variation", which is 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4 3.Bxe5.
You could play the slightly more passive Reversed St George - 1.b4 e5 2.a3 intending e3 and often times d4 comes later, especially after 1.b4 e5 2.a3 d5, which can lead to Reversed French positions.
Oct 19, 2023
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#5
ThrillerFan написал:
There is ZERO reason to try to get the same position as White as you do with Black. They call it a Defense for a reason!
1) I love french defence
2) It saves me time on learning theory
3) Defences are easier to learn then ambitious openings
Oct 19, 2023
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#6
Do you recommend to use the polish against d4 and others? Or only as white?
Nimzovich himself played the French Defence, the Nimzovich Indian Defence and opened 1 e3 as white.
ThrillerFan wrote:
There is ZERO reason to try to get the same position as White as you do with Black. They call it a Defense for a reason!
That said, while it doesn't "always" lead to French-type positions, one good one is the Sokolsky. White goes for an immediate queenside attack - the side Black typically attacks in the French, plays e3, and depending on the line, often times d4 eventually.
Probably the variation that most resembles the French comes in the 2...f6 line:
1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 f6 3.b5 d5 4.e3 Bd6 5.d4 e4 6.Nfd2 with c4 basically coming next, attacking d5.
But there are some lines that don't play like a French, like 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 d6, which plays more like a King's Indian (3...Nf6/4...g6/5...Bg7) or else 3...f5, and then the "Exchange Variation", which is 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4 3.Bxe5.
You could play the slightly more passive Reversed St George - 1.b4 e5 2.a3 intending e3 and often times d4 comes later, especially after 1.b4 e5 2.a3 d5, which can lead to Reversed French positions.
well, I took up stonewalling PRECISELY because one mostly plays the same few moves in the opening, from either side of the board, and even had great stats with it in my 1400s, but find people are much better against it, at least as black, than they used to be, and/or my opponents have made progress positionally where I am unable to and only improve tactically
gik-tally wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
There is ZERO reason to try to get the same position as White as you do with Black. They call it a Defense for a reason!
That said, while it doesn't "always" lead to French-type positions, one good one is the Sokolsky. White goes for an immediate queenside attack - the side Black typically attacks in the French, plays e3, and depending on the line, often times d4 eventually.
Probably the variation that most resembles the French comes in the 2...f6 line:
1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 f6 3.b5 d5 4.e3 Bd6 5.d4 e4 6.Nfd2 with c4 basically coming next, attacking d5.
But there are some lines that don't play like a French, like 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 d6, which plays more like a King's Indian (3...Nf6/4...g6/5...Bg7) or else 3...f5, and then the "Exchange Variation", which is 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4 3.Bxe5.
You could play the slightly more passive Reversed St George - 1.b4 e5 2.a3 intending e3 and often times d4 comes later, especially after 1.b4 e5 2.a3 d5, which can lead to Reversed French positions.
well, I took up stonewalling PRECISELY because one mostly plays the same few moves in the opening, from either side of the board, and even had great stats with it in my 1400s, but find people are much better against it, at least as black, than they used to be, and/or my opponents have made progress positionally where I am unable to and only improve tactically
If you can see that as a possibility, why do you continue to insist on playing incredibly tactics-focused openings rather than switching to fully positional openings to shore up your weakness?
