How playable is this for White on all levels?
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Definitely playable. Whether it's sound is debatable.
It's playable, but if Black knows the Schlecter Defense, then White's plan of an all out (and often sacrificial) attack is busted.
I think the term "playable" is often used interchangeably with "good". The way I see it, every move, opening, and combination you can think if is "playable". Whether or not it is good is up to you and all those analysts (both human and computer) out there.
I thought it would be pretty clear what I meant: capable of being played on a reasonably successful level when compared to the more common openings. Obviously it's playable for beginners, almost anything is, but I was just interested in knowing whether or not it was worth getting into on the levels above. Maybe, as theweaponking mentioned, there are responses which are effective enough to make it not worth pursuing.
theweaponking wrote:
I think the term "playable" is often used interchangeably with "good". The way I see it, every move, opening, and combination you can think if is "playable". Whether or not it is good is up to you and all those analysts (both human and computer) out there.
Exactly. Why would I use "playable" by its literal definition.
Yeah, I understood what you meant up there. That's called the Danish Gambit and I believe it to possibly be playable up to around maybe...2000 strength? But after a while, you just run into the Schlecter too much or other strong responses that make it almost not worth playing at that high a level. In essence, it's "too easy" for Black to play against it.
I think the Danish is pretty sound based upon these results
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit_Accepted_Schlechter_Defense
gambit13 wrote:
I think the Danish is pretty sound based upon these results
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit_Accepted_Schlechter_Defense
Funny thing is from those two lines it looks like with best play you have a middlegame/endgame without queens and a majority on opposite sides. Looks like the better player wins it to me(or the player who understands this type of position better.
However d3 and d5 statistically are horrible for white
Fezzik wrote:
I think it's been analysed to a draw, which is why it's not seen above ~2200 level except as a surprise weapon. It's a good weapon for scholastic players though.
John Nunn, in Nunn's Chess Openings, considers several of the positions arising from the Danish to be unclear, but he has hidden the most clear drawing line in his notes.
care to enlighten us?
erikido23 wrote:
gambit13 wrote:
I think the Danish is pretty sound based upon these results
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit_Accepted_Schlechter_Defense
Funny thing is from those two lines it looks like with best play you have a middlegame/endgame without queens and a majority on opposite sides. Looks like the better player wins it to me(or the player who understands this type of position better.
However d3 and d5 statistically are horrible for white
Very unlikely for a queen trade when one player is 2 pawns down. White will hold on to queen while black attempts queen trades. As it is a gambit, queens are highly likely to stay on the board
gambit13 wrote:
erikido23 wrote:
gambit13 wrote:
I think the Danish is pretty sound based upon these results
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit
http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C21_Danish_Gambit_Accepted_Schlechter_Defense
Funny thing is from those two lines it looks like with best play you have a middlegame/endgame without queens and a majority on opposite sides. Looks like the better player wins it to me(or the player who understands this type of position better.
However d3 and d5 statistically are horrible for white
Very unlikely for a queen trade when one player is 2 pawns down. White will hold on to queen while black attempts queen trades. As it is a gambit, queens are highly likely to stay on the board
looks like you didn't look at the links
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